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From: Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] UDPCP Communication Protocol
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:23:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1293794589.5285.16.camel@wall-e> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1293792066.2973.43.camel@edumazet-laptop>

Am Freitag, den 31.12.2010, 11:41 +0100 schrieb Eric Dumazet:
> Le vendredi 31 décembre 2010 à 11:22 +0100, Stefani Seibold a écrit :
> > Am Freitag, den 31.12.2010, 11:00 +0100 schrieb Eric Dumazet:
> > > Le vendredi 31 décembre 2010 à 10:29 +0100, stefani@seibold.net a
> > > écrit :
> > > > From: Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > >  /*
> > > >   *	Handle MSG_ERRQUEUE
> > > > diff --git a/net/ipv4/udp.c b/net/ipv4/udp.c
> > > > index 2d3ded4..f9890a2 100644
> > > > --- a/net/ipv4/udp.c
> > > > +++ b/net/ipv4/udp.c
> > > > @@ -1310,7 +1310,7 @@ static int __udp_queue_rcv_skb(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb)
> > > >  	if (inet_sk(sk)->inet_daddr)
> > > >  		sock_rps_save_rxhash(sk, skb->rxhash);
> > > >  
> > > > -	rc = ip_queue_rcv_skb(sk, skb);
> > > > +	rc = sock_queue_rcv_skb(sk, skb);
> > > 
> > > Ouch... Care to explain why you changed this part ???
> > > 
> > > You just destroyed commit f84af32cbca70a intent, without any word in
> > > your changelog. Making UDP slower, while others try to speed it must be
> > > explained and advertised.
> > >  
> > > In general, we prefer a preliminary patch introducing all the changes in
> > > current stack, then another one with the new protocol.
> > > 
> > 
> > I reverted this for two reasons:
> > 
> > First ip_queue_rcv_skb drops the dst entry, which breaks the user land
> > application which expect packet info after a
> > 
> > setsockopt(handle, IPPROTO_IP, IP_PKTINFO, &const_int_1, sizeof(int));
> > 
> > But for packets already in the queue this information will be lost. So
> > it is a potential race condition.
> > 
> 
> Exactly same race with packet filters. 
> 
> If your life depends on that, you must flush incoming queue _after_
> issuing setsockopt(handle, IPPROTO_IP, IP_PKTINFO, &const_int_1,
> sizeof(int)). So that all following packets have the information needed.
> 
> 

I though always that the linux kernel never breaks user land. This is a
break!

> 
> > Second it breaks my UDPCP communication protocol stack module, which
> > works very well till 2.6.35. I need this information in the data_ready()
> > function to generate an ACK.
> > 
> > 
> 
> See now why you should not proceed like that ?
> 
> You know _perfectly_ there is a problem but prefer to keep it for you,
> and hope this bit will be unnoticed ?
> 

Stop to accuse me. There was a feature that was gone. An it took me six
hours to figure out whats going wrong. I did not saw and see a real
problem with this patch. It looked for me like an easy and clean
solution. It was never my intention to trick somebody, especially u.

> This is not how things are dealed in linux, really.
> 
> You'll have to find a way so that things work well for everybody, not
> only for you.
> 
> I guess you must fix UDPCP protocol stack, not 'fix linux'
> 

I cannot fix it, because the information is still lost, and i need it. 

In my opinion it was a very bad idea to throw away important
information. I checked it and Linux handle this since 2.6.0 in this way.

It would be better not to accuse than to work on a solution. 

Question: How much performace gain does the early drop give. Are there
benchmark results?




  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-31 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-31  9:29 [PATCH] UDPCP Communication Protocol stefani
2010-12-31 10:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-31 10:22   ` Stefani Seibold
2010-12-31 10:41     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-31 11:23       ` Stefani Seibold [this message]
2010-12-31 11:54         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-01 21:40           ` Stefani Seibold
2011-01-10 22:28             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-12-31 10:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-31 10:29   ` Stefani Seibold
2010-12-31 10:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-31 11:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-31 12:00   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-01 21:28     ` Stefani Seibold
2010-12-31 17:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-12-31 17:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-01-06 20:11 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-06 20:17   ` David Miller
2011-01-10 22:53 ` Jesper Juhl
2011-01-11  0:49 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer

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