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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: "Kuwahara,T." <6vvetjsrt26xsrzlh1z0zn4d2grdah@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V8 02/13] ntp: add ADJ_SETOFFSET mode bit
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:11:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294693892.3068.17.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimS0-ih=WZ_GvPi9NFjbYMT4OctWV943ri4GuTD@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 05:47 +0900, Kuwahara,T. wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Richard Cochran
> <richardcochran@gmail.com> wrote:
> > the PTP Hardware Clocks for which this whole patch
> > set was created in the first place will keep their time as TAI.
> 
> Are you sure of that?  I don't have the standard handy (it's non-free,
> right?) but it seems that the Annex B states differently.  But that's
> not the point anyway.  My concern is that your patch not only adds the
> useless (and broken) feature to the existing syscall but also makes a
> permanent change to the public interface for your own use.  That's
> what I'm against.  So if you stop touching the struct timex, I won't
> complain anymore.

You still haven't explained *why* you're so protective of the timex and
adjtimex interfaces.  While I do want to keep compatible the
functionality where possible, I don't see why Linux should be limited by
what other OSes do.

Injecting an offset to the system time seems like a reasonable thing for
adjtimex to do (rather then adding a new syscall). Further utilizing a
new mode bit for this functionality seems reasonable and cleaner then
your suggestions for utilizing existing mode bits in combined with other
magic bits. If there is a compelling reason why not to do this, do
please let us know! We might just agree with you after hearing it. :)

thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-10 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-31 19:11 [PATCH V8 00/13] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Richard Cochran
     [not found] ` <cover.1293820862.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-31 19:12   ` [PATCH V8 01/13] time: Introduce timekeeping_inject_offset John Stultz
     [not found]     ` <15a12892b0bfc17327d2b3a7695c81fbe6f34337.1293820862.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-06 22:00       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-12-31 19:12   ` [PATCH V8 02/13] ntp: add ADJ_SETOFFSET mode bit Richard Cochran
     [not found]     ` <fe2bec763bec155381d62721aa9da84aeca2785c.1293820862.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-01 20:38       ` Kuwahara,T.
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTini2WdT-1v4k9V3JOZYDkA59P+SyscTe8-fK2Wk-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-08 17:50           ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]             ` <20110108175028.GA22308-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-09 21:07               ` Kuwahara,T.
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTikigXGSACF6R6kfNHyKZ7GFWrUrCMxygvL3fUC6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10  7:17                   ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                     ` <20110110071759.GA4864-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 20:47                       ` Kuwahara,T.
2011-01-10 21:11                         ` john stultz [this message]
2011-01-11 11:09                         ` Richard Cochran
2011-01-10 16:49                   ` john stultz
2011-01-10 20:45                     ` Kuwahara,T.
     [not found]                       ` <AANLkTikdg4Pb5c4wcCU3d3Eku=mpiW_TEkBz0A2VPdVp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 21:06                         ` john stultz
2011-01-11 20:32                           ` Kuwahara,T.
     [not found]                             ` <AANLkTik+2udoJ6JyZMhkd1yhr2W9hSWO_vD_zdm+BoOG-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-11 20:55                               ` john stultz
2011-01-12 20:39                                 ` Kuwahara,T.
     [not found]                                   ` <AANLkTikYuYwb4BLsU3BF_=d9fAdcfb0AC2itDBeyFsNq-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-12 20:55                                     ` john stultz
2011-01-10  7:22                 ` Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:13   ` [PATCH V8 04/13] posix_clocks: add clock_adjtime for arm Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:15   ` [PATCH V8 08/13] posix clocks: cleanup the CLOCK_DISPTACH macro Richard Cochran
2011-01-03  9:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-03 11:51       ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]     ` <503cd1fa268867573001cfc9bb5681ee3b5b32fa.1293820862.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-11 12:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]         ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1101111224280.12146-bi+AKbBUZKagILUCTcTcHdKyNwTtLsGr@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-12  7:37           ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]             ` <20110112073728.GA2935-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-12 11:16               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-01-12 12:17                 ` Richard Cochran
2011-01-13  4:30           ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]             ` <20110113043037.GA17726-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-13 11:25               ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-12-31 19:15   ` [PATCH V8 09/13] posix clocks: introduce dynamic clocks Richard Cochran
     [not found]     ` <c28004fc5d121c1dd5f842550663fc9d6f55a114.1293820862.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-06 19:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-01-07 16:41         ` Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:16   ` [PATCH V8 11/13] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:17   ` [PATCH V8 12/13] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2011-01-06 21:01     ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]       ` <m3ei8plpa0.fsf-gTjgKJgtlHj77SC2UrCW1FMQynFLKtET@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-07 17:07         ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]           ` <20110107170752.GB8666-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-08 16:25             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2011-01-10 20:24             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-12-31 19:17   ` [PATCH V8 13/13] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:13 ` [PATCH V8 03/13] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:14 ` [PATCH V8 05/13] posix_clocks: add clock_adjtime for blackfin Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:14 ` [PATCH V8 06/13] posix_clocks: add clock_adjtime for powerpc Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:14 ` [PATCH V8 07/13] posix_clocks: add clock_adjtime for x86 Richard Cochran
2010-12-31 19:16 ` [PATCH V8 10/13] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran

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