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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Netfilter Development Mailinglist
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] netfilter: ipt_CLUSTERIP: remove "no conntrack!"
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:39:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294929579.3570.163.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.01.1101131502240.25211@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>

Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 15:02 +0100, Jan Engelhardt a écrit :
> On Thursday 2011-01-13 14:38, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> 
> >Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 12:54 +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso a écrit :
> >
> >> But printing this does not provide any useful information. The first
> >> packet that does not belong to the cluster node that has received the
> >> packet, or the first invalid packet, will trigger this.
> >> 
> >> Moreover, this confuses users since they can do nothing if they receive
> >> this message.
> >> 
> >> Moreover, this target should be supersedes by the cluster match, which
> >> has been there for quite some time (it's also more flexible).
> >
> >Now you mentioned it, cluster match is not as flexible right now,
> >its hashing is on source_ip only.
> 
> I think in that case, xt_cluster should be improved rather
> than an old module.

Amen

We should not improve IPv4 support then, I see.

My customers use this old module, and upgrading to xt_cluster is not an
option.

Should we discuss this forever or fix it ?

In the end, people are forced to add useless iptables rule to DROP
INVALID packets before entering ipt_CLUSTERIP, after googling or
eventually asking to experts.

Last time this was discussed, this went nowhere :

http://www.spinics.net/lists/netfilter/msg48676.html

Come on guys, we can do it, dont be afraid.

A non rate limited printk() in kernel is forbidden, especially in
network stack.

Then, cluster match can be improved, I am sure you already have a patch
for it.



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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-13 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4D2E1A74.5080102@netfilter.org>
2011-01-13 11:13 ` [PATCH] netfilter: ipt_CLUSTERIP: dont flood with "no conntrack!" Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:23   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 11:28     ` Patrick McHardy
2011-01-13 11:29       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 11:36       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:32     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:54       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 13:38         ` [PATCH v4] netfilter: ipt_CLUSTERIP: remove " Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 14:02           ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-01-13 14:39             ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-01-13 16:30               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 16:35                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 16:48                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-18 15:28                 ` Patrick McHardy

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