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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	Wei Gu <wei.gu@ericsson.com>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kirsher, Jeffrey T" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Low performance Intel 10GE NIC (3.2.10) on 2.6.38 Kernel
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:57:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302857857.2388.158.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302800221.3248.39.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 18:57 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 18:56 +0200, Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 09:42 -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm doing some more digging into this now.  One thought that occurred to 
> > > me is that if the patch you mention is having some sort of effect this 
> > > could be a sign of perhaps a kernel timer or scheduling problem.
> > 
> > Right, so the removal of the NO_HZ throttle will allow the CPU to go
> > into C states more often, this could result in longer wake-up times for
> > IRQs.
> > 
> > We reverted because:
> >   - it caused significant battery drain due to not going into C states
> >     often enough, and
> >   - its a much better idea to implement these things in the idle
> >     governor since it already has the job of guestimating the idle
> >     duration.
> > 
> > I really can't remember back far enough to even come up with a theory of
> > why kernels prior to merging the NO_HZ throttle would not exhibit this
> > problem.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Normally, Wei Gu already asked to not use C states.
> 
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01804533/c01804533.pdf
> 
> How can we/he check this ?

Not quite sure, I think powertop has something that measures C-state
usage, but if the BIOS is lying to us (pretty good bet since he's using
HP crap^W) there's nothing much we can do about that.

Another thing that could be causing pain in NO_HZ transitions is if
we're having to switch to timer broadcast mode when we go into NO_HZ,
I'm not sure if HP systems are affected by this, nor am I exactly sure
which DL580 he's got.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-15  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <D12839161ADD3A4B8DA63D1A134D084026E48B9BEB@ESGSCCMS0001.eapac.ericsson.se>
2011-04-07  4:58 ` Question on "net: allocate skbs on local node" Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07  5:16   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07  6:16     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07  7:22       ` Low performance Intel 10GE NIC (3.2.10) on 2.6.38 Kernel Wei Gu
2011-04-07  8:07         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07  8:39           ` Wei Gu
2011-04-07  9:06             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07 11:15               ` Wei Gu
2011-04-07 11:46                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07 13:41                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07 15:58                   ` Alexander Duyck
2011-04-07 16:03                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-07 16:20                       ` Alexander Duyck
2011-04-07 16:37                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-08  8:59                         ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08  9:07                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-08  9:15                             ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08  9:49                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-08  9:59                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08  9:41                             ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08 12:19                             ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08 12:56                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-08 14:10                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08 14:49                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-04-09  3:51                                     ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08 15:07                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-09  3:27                                     ` Wei Gu
2011-04-09  6:36                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-10  7:02                                         ` Wei Gu
2011-04-11 14:50                                           ` Alexander Duyck
2011-04-11 15:00                                             ` Wei Gu
2011-04-11 15:14                                             ` Wei Gu
2011-04-11 15:42                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-12  1:22                                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-12  4:40                                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-12  4:56                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-12  5:18                                                     ` Wei Gu
2011-04-14  5:42                                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-14  6:07                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14  6:33                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14  6:58                                                       ` Wei Gu
2011-04-14 16:42                                                         ` Alexander Duyck
2011-04-14 16:45                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 16:56                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-14 16:57                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 17:49                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 19:08                                                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2011-04-15  2:10                                                               ` Wei Gu
2011-04-15  8:57                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-04-15  9:14                                                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-18 21:12                                                                   ` Jesse Brandeburg
2011-04-19  4:09                                                                     ` Wei Gu
2011-04-21  2:57                                                                     ` Wei Gu
2011-04-21  3:25                                                                     ` Wei Gu
2011-04-08 16:22                               ` Alexander Duyck
2011-04-09  3:36                                 ` Wei Gu
2011-04-09  4:40                                   ` Alexander H Duyck
2011-04-09  6:12                                     ` Wei Gu

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