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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: small RPS cache for fragments?
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 13:41:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305664875.8149.945.camel@tardy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305663434.8149.936.camel@tardy>

On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 13:17 -0700, Rick Jones wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 13:02 -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
> > I like it!  And this sounds like the sort of algorithm that NICs might
> > be able to implement to solve the UDP/RSS unpleasantness, so even
> > better.
> 
> Do (m)any devices take "shortcuts" with UDP datagrams these days?  By
> that I mean that back in the day, the HP-PB and "Slider" FDDI
> cards/drivers did checksum offload for fragmented UDP datagrams by
> sending the first fragment, the one with the UDP header and thus
> checksum, last.  It did that to save space on the card and make use of
> the checksum accumulator.

Even if no devices (mis)behave like that today, ordering of fragments
sent via a mode-rr bond is far from a sure thing.

rick

> 
> rick jones
> 
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:33 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems to me that we can solve the UDP fragmentation problem for
> > > flow steering very simply by creating a (saddr/daddr/IPID) entry in a
> > > table that maps to the corresponding RPS flow entry.
> > >
> > > When we see the initial frag with the UDP header, we create the
> > > saddr/daddr/IPID mapping, and we tear it down when we hit the
> > > saddr/daddr/IPID mapping and the packet has the IP_MF bit clear.
> > >
> > > We only inspect the saddr/daddr/IPID cache when iph->frag_off is
> > > non-zero.
> > >
> > > It's best effort and should work quite well.
> > >
> > > Even a one-behind cache, per-NAPI instance, would do a lot better than
> > > what happens at the moment.  Especially since the IP fragments mostly
> > > arrive as one packet train.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-17 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17 18:33 small RPS cache for fragments? David Miller
2011-05-17 20:02 ` Tom Herbert
2011-05-17 20:17   ` Rick Jones
2011-05-17 20:41     ` Rick Jones [this message]
2011-05-17 20:49   ` David Miller
2011-05-17 21:00     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 21:10       ` David Miller
2011-05-17 21:13         ` Rick Jones
2011-05-17 21:13         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-17 21:26           ` David Miller
2011-05-17 21:40             ` Rick Jones
2011-05-17 21:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 21:11       ` Rick Jones
2011-05-17 21:11       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-17 21:27     ` Tom Herbert
2011-05-17 21:28       ` David Miller
2011-05-17 23:59     ` Changli Gao
2011-05-18  6:37       ` David Miller
2011-05-17 20:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 20:47   ` David Miller
2011-05-17 21:44   ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 21:52     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 22:03       ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 21:44 ` David Miller
2011-05-17 21:48   ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 21:50     ` David Miller
2011-05-17 22:06       ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 22:42       ` Rick Jones
2011-05-24 20:01 ` David Miller
2011-05-24 21:38   ` Rick Jones
2011-06-04 20:29     ` David Miller
2011-06-06 17:08       ` Rick Jones
2011-06-06 17:15         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 18:06           ` Rick Jones
2011-06-06 19:23           ` David Miller
2011-06-06 19:22         ` David Miller
2011-06-06 20:05           ` Rick Jones
2011-06-06 21:06             ` Jay Vosburgh
2011-06-06 21:40               ` David Miller
2011-06-06 22:49                 ` Chris Friesen

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