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From: Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>,
	"Ben Hutchings" <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:07:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305734857.32080.53.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110518154746.GA21378@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 18:47 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 07:38:27AM -0700, Shirley Ma wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 13:40 +0200, Michał Mirosław wrote:
> > > >> >> Not more other restrictions, skb clone is OK.
> pskb_expand_head()
> > > looks
> > > >> >> OK to me from code review.
> > > >> > Hmm. pskb_expand_head calls skb_release_data while keeping
> > > >> > references to pages. How is that ok? What do I miss?
> > > >> It's making copy of the skb_shinfo earlier, so the pages
> refcount
> > > >> stays the same.
> > > > Exactly. But the callback is invoked so the guest thinks it's ok
> to
> > > > change this memory. If it does a corrupted packet will be sent
> out.
> > > 
> > > Hmm. I tool a quick look at skb_clone(), and it looks like this
> > > sequence will break this scheme:
> > > 
> > > skb2 = skb_clone(skb...);
> > > kfree_skb(skb) or pskb_expand_head(skb);  /* callback called */
> > > [use skb2, pages still referenced]
> > > kfree_skb(skb); /* callback called again */
> > > 
> > > This sequence is common in bridge, might be in other places.
> > > 
> > > Maybe this ubuf thing should just track clones? This will make it
> work
> > > on all devices then.
> > 
> > The callback was only invoked when last reference of skb was gone.
> > skb_clone does increase skb refcnt. I tested tcpdump on lower
> device, it
> > worked.
> 
> Right, it will normally work, but two issues I think you miss:
> 1. malicious guest can change the memory between when it is sent out
> by
>    device and consumed by tcpdump, so you will see different things
>    (not sure how important this is).
> 2. if tcpdump stops consuming stuff from the packet socket (it's
>    userspace, can't be trusted) then we won't get a callback for
>    page potentially forever, guest networking will get blocked etc.
> > For the sequence of:
> > 
> > skb_clone  -> last refcnt + 1
> > kfree_skb() or pskb_expand_head -> callback not called
> > kfree_skb() -> callback called
> > 
> > I will check page refcount to see whether it's balanced.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > shirley
> 
> 
> pskb_expand_head is a problem anyway I think as it
> can hang on to pages after it calls release_data.
> Then guest will modify these pages and you get trash there. 

This can be avoid by allowing pskb_expand_head in fastpath only, I
think. But not sure whether tcpdump can still work with this.

Thanks
Shirley

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-16 19:28 [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 19:38   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:47     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 21:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16 23:32         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17  6:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-17 20:53             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 21:48           ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 22:28             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 22:58               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 23:44                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18  9:06                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 10:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:10                 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:40                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:47                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 14:38                       ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 15:47                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:07                           ` Shirley Ma [this message]
2011-05-18 16:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:45                               ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 17:00                                   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 19:42                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 23:41                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25 22:49                                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26  8:49                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26 15:27                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 19:11                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:02                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:23                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:50                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:47                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:56                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 12:48                         ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 13:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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