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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
Cc: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 802.3ad bonding brain damaged?
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:59:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312819168.2531.3.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312790234.7020.26.camel@arkology.n2.diac24.net>

Le lundi 08 août 2011 à 09:57 +0200, David Lamparter a écrit :
> Am Sonntag, den 07.08.2011, 15:52 -0400 schrieb Phillip Susi:
> > - From Documentation/networking/bonding.txt:
> > 
> > 	Additionally, the linux bonding 802.3ad implementation
> > 	distributes traffic by peer (using an XOR of MAC addresses),
> > 
> > This is counter to the entire point of 802.3ad. Distributing traffic by
> > hash of the destination address is poor mans load balancing for
> > systems not supporting 802.3ad. 
> 
> No, it isn't. 802.3ad/.1AX explicitly requires that no packet
> re-ordering may ever occur, which can only be guaranteed by enqueueing
> packets for one host on one TX interface. This behaviour is mandated by
> 802.1AX-2008 page 15 which reads:
> 
>   This standard does not mandate any particular distribution
>   algorithm(s); however, any distribution algorithm shall ensure that,
>   when frames are received by a Frame Collector as specified in 5.2.3,
>   the algorithm shall not cause
>   a) Misordering of frames that are part of any given conversation, or
>   b) Duplication of frames.
> | The above requirement to maintain frame ordering is met by ensuring
> | that all frames that compose a given conversation are transmitted on a
> | single link in the order that they are generated by the MAC Client;
>   hence, this requirement does not involve the addition (or
>   modification) of any information to the MAC frame, nor any buffering
>   or processing on the part of the corresponding Frame Collector in
>   order to reorder frames. This approach to the operation of the
>   distribution function permits a wide variety of distribution and load
>   balancing algorithms to be used, while also ensuring interoperability
>   between devices that adopt differing algorithms.
> 

It all depends on the definition of 'conversation'

Phillip assumed two (or more) TCP flows from machine A to machine B
could use two different links, while you assert they MUST use a single
link.




  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-08 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-07 19:52 802.3ad bonding brain damaged? Phillip Susi
2011-08-08  7:57 ` David Lamparter
2011-08-08 15:59   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-08-08 16:44     ` Jay Vosburgh
2011-08-08 20:06   ` Phillip Susi
2011-08-08 20:08     ` Chris Adams
2011-08-08 20:14     ` Chris Friesen
2011-08-08 20:32       ` Phillip Susi
2011-08-08 20:42         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-09 11:24         ` Benny Amorsen
2011-08-08 20:54     ` Rick Jones

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