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From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, paulus@samba.org, linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/12] headers, ppp: Add missing #include to <linux/if_ppp.h>
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:40:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312893620.2591.1222.camel@deadeye> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110809.002738.679747111943821641.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 00:27 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:25:19 +0100
> 
> > <linux/if_ppp.h> uses various types defined in <linux/ppp_defs.h>.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
> 
> Unfortunately there is a "net/if_ppp.h" provided by glibc that
> includes "net/ppp_defs.h", and all of this is presumably in order
> to discourage direct use of the kernel headers.
> 
> Even though net/ppp_defs.h ends up including linux/ppp_defs.h
> anyways.
> 
> Whilst I think your efforts are to be commended, we can't start doing
> or else we'll start breaking the build in various unexpected ways.
> 
> The SIOCDEVPRIVATE (defined by GLIBC in bits/ioctls.h) case is just
> one such example.

I did try to check for these cases, but obviously missed some.  I'll
re-post the series without these ones.

In the longer term I would really like to solve this mess somehow.
glibc is obviously duplicating a lot of definitions in different headers
(but tends to lag behind a little) and other C libraries may also have
to duplicate that work for compatibility.  Some kernel headers already
*do* include headers such as <linux/if.h> that can conflict with C
library headers, sometimes requiring userland to work around the
conflict somehow.

Ben.


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      reply	other threads:[~2011-08-09 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-05 21:45 include/linux/netlink.h: problem when included by an application Michel Machado
2011-08-07  1:15 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-07 22:14   ` Michel Machado
2011-08-08  5:48     ` David Miller
2011-08-08 13:15       ` [PATCH 00/12] Fix net header dependencies Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:16         ` [PATCH 01/12] headers, pppox: Add missing #include to <linux/if_pppox.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:17         ` [PATCH 02/12] headers, ax25: Add missing #include to <linux/netrom.h>, <linux/rose.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 14:07           ` Ralf Baechle
2011-08-08 13:17         ` [PATCH 03/12] headers, pppol2tp: Use __kernel_pid_t in <linux/pppol2tp.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:18         ` [PATCH 04/12] headers, net: Use __kernel_sa_family_t in more definitions shared with userland Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:18         ` [PATCH 05/12] headers, net: Define struct __kernel_sockaddr, replacing struct sockaddr Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:19         ` [PATCH 06/12] headers, netfilter: Use kernel type names __u8, __u16, __u32 Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:19         ` [PATCH 07/12] headers, tipc: Add missing #include to <linux/tipc_config.h> for userland Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:20         ` [PATCH 08/12] headers, netfilter: Add missing #include <limits.h> " Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 13:20         ` [PATCH 09/12] headers, xtables: Add missing #include <linux/netfilter.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-09 15:29           ` Patrick McHardy
2011-08-08 13:20         ` [PATCH 10/12] headers, can: Add missing #include to <linux/can/bcm.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 15:15           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-08-08 13:24         ` [PATCH 11/12] headers, scc: Add missing #include to <linux/scc.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-08 18:20           ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-09  7:14             ` walter harms
2011-08-08 13:25         ` [PATCH 12/12] headers, ppp: Add missing #include to <linux/if_ppp.h> Ben Hutchings
2011-08-09  7:27           ` David Miller
2011-08-09 12:40             ` Ben Hutchings [this message]

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