From: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
To: "Nicolas de Pesloüan" <nicolas.2p.debian@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jiri Pirko" <jpirko@redhat.com>,
"Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, shemminger@vyatta.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next-2.6 1/2] net: allow to change carrier via sysfs
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:44:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1314823481.3274.26.camel@bwh-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5E9A30.1040105@gmail.com>
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 22:31 +0200, Nicolas de Pesloüan wrote:
> Le 31/08/2011 22:12, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 22:03 +0200, Nicolas de Pesloüan wrote:
> >> Le 31/08/2011 10:45, Jiri Pirko a écrit :
> >>
> >>>>>> Do you expect drivers using implementation different than just calling
> >>>>>> netif_carrier_on/off? Or is it supposed to also e.g. power down PHYs?
> >>>>> Yes, generally it can be used also for en/disable phy, for testing
> >>>>> purposes if hw and driver would support it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to see this working for GRE tunnel devices (for keepalive
> >>>> daemon to be able to indicate to routing daemons whether tunnel is
> >>>> really working) - implementation would be identical to dummy's case.
> >>>> Should I prepare a patch or can I leave it to you?
> >>>
> >>> Ok, I can include it to this patchset (I'm going to repost first patch
> >>> anyway)
> >>
> >> Can't we assume that the dummy's case is the default behavior and
> >> register this default
> >> ndo_change_carrier callback for every device ?
> >
> > You have got to be joking. No device driver that has real link
> > monitoring should use this implementation.
>
> Well, why not? Arguably, this is probably not the feature one would
> use every day, but...
>
> Testing a cluster reaction to a link down event would be easier if one
> doesn't need to unplug the
> cable for the test. I understand that one can turn off the switch port
> (physical or virtual), but
> echo 0 > /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier would be nice too.
>
> Of course, I assume that netif_carrier_on and netif_carrier_off are
> only called on real link status
> change. So the value written into /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier would
> stay until the link revert it,
> due to a double status change (up-down-up or down-up-down). But I may
> miss totally this point.
Think what happens if the user sets carrier on, when the link is
actually down.
Ben.
--
Ben Hutchings, Staff Engineer, Solarflare
Not speaking for my employer; that's the marketing department's job.
They asked us to note that Solarflare product names are trademarked.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-31 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-30 14:46 [patch net-next-2.6 0/2] net: allow to change carrier via sysfs Jiri Pirko
2011-08-30 14:46 ` [patch net-next-2.6 1/2] " Jiri Pirko
2011-08-30 15:14 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-30 15:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-30 18:11 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-08-30 18:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-08-31 8:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-31 8:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-31 8:33 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-08-31 8:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-31 20:03 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-08-31 20:12 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-31 20:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-31 20:31 ` Nicolas de Pesloüan
2011-08-31 20:44 ` Ben Hutchings [this message]
2011-08-31 20:48 ` Ben Greear
2011-08-31 21:36 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-08-31 21:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-09-01 5:46 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-31 21:49 ` Ben Greear
2011-09-01 5:44 ` Jiri Pirko
2011-08-30 14:46 ` [patch net-next-2.6 2/2] dummy: implement carrier change Jiri Pirko
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