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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	bhutchings@solarflare.com, shemminger@vyatta.com,
	fubar@us.ibm.com, andy@greyhouse.net, tgraf@infradead.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, mirqus@gmail.com, kaber@trash.net,
	greearb@candelatech.com, jesse@nicira.com, fbl@redhat.com,
	benjamin.poirier@gmail.com, jzupka@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next V2] net: introduce ethernet teaming device
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:45:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1319366709.27507.14.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111023082545.GA15908@minipsycho.orion>

Le dimanche 23 octobre 2011 à 10:25 +0200, Jiri Pirko a écrit :

> Please forgive me, it's possible I'm missing something. But I see no way how
> team->mode_ops.receive can change during team_handle_frame (holding
> rcu_read_lock) for the reason I stated earlier.
> 
> team_port_del() calls netdev_rx_handler_unregister() and after that it
> calls synchronize_rcu(). That ensures that by the finish of team_port_del()
> run, team_handle_frame() is not called for this port anymore.
> 
> And this combined with "if (!list_empty(&team->port_list))" check in
> team_change_mode() ensures safety.
> 
> Of course team_port_del() and team_change_mode() are both protected by
> team->lock so they are mutually excluded.

Oh well.

Jirka, I believe I do understand how RCU is working ;)

There is an obvious problem I pointed to you, but you persist leaving
this potential bug.

After netdev_rx_handler_unregister(), you can still have other cpus
calling your handler and reading/using previous memory content. Only
after synchronize_rcu() you can be safe. But in your patch the bug
window is _exactly_ _before_ synchronize_rcu() returns.

Your spinlock wont help you at all, since readers dont take it.
Spinlock only protects writers.


So a reader, even holding rcu lock, can really see two different
mode_ops.receive values for the :

if (team->mode_ops.receive)
	res = team->mode_ops.receive(team, port, skb);


rcu_lock() doesnt mean the reader can see an unique .receive value,

I am afraid you misunderstood the point.

Real point of RCU here is that the _writer_ wont returns from
synchronize_rcu() if at least one reader is still running the handler.

No problem with me, I'll just post a patch later, I just cant Ack your
work as is.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-23 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-21 12:39 [patch net-next V2] net: introduce ethernet teaming device Jiri Pirko
2011-10-21 14:00 ` Benjamin Poirier
2011-10-21 14:18   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-21 14:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-21 15:02   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-21 15:31     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-22 15:13   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-22 16:51     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-23  8:25       ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-23  8:43         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-23  8:52           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-23 10:45         ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-10-23 12:51           ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-23 14:37             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-23 15:50               ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-21 18:27 ` Jay Vosburgh
2011-10-22 15:55   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-23 21:46 ` Or Gerlitz
2011-10-24  6:54   ` Jiri Pirko
2011-10-26 14:31 ` Or Gerlitz

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