From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jamal Hadi Salim Subject: Re: Issues with openflow protocol WAS(RE: [GIT PULL v2] Open vSwitch Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:55:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1322520920.6118.42.camel@mojatatu> References: <20111123075433.GA7928@gondor.apana.org.au> <1322050976.2039.125.camel@mojatatu> <20111128130409.GB16828@gondor.apana.org.au> <0199E0D51A61344794750DC57738F58E7586A74137@GVW1118EXC.americas.hpqcorp.net> <1322489230.7338.71.camel@mojatatu> <20124540-D566-41B0-B86F-0BCA19B948AA@nicira.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Fischer, Anna" , "dev-yBygre7rU0TnMu66kgdUjQ@public.gmane.org" , David Miller , Herbert Xu , "netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" To: Justin Pettit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20124540-D566-41B0-B86F-0BCA19B948AA-l0M0P4e3n4LQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: dev-bounces-yBygre7rU0TnMu66kgdUjQ@public.gmane.org Errors-To: dev-bounces-yBygre7rU0TnMu66kgdUjQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 10:44 -0800, Justin Pettit wrote: > I realize you chair an IETF standard with overlapping goals with > OpenFlow (ForCES), so you may have strong opinions about its design. Yes, I do have strong opinions not really related to ForCES more towards Linux. If i was to put ForCES in Linux (it is purely user space driven) it would work with zero or small changes. And my non-Linux opinions are driven because I have implemented some of the things you folks are doing and look at them as advise more than anything else. > However, that's not relevant to this discussion, since OpenFlow's design > has nothing to do with the discussion being held here in regards to Open > vSwitch. OpenFlow is just a bullet point--although an important one--in > a large set of features that Open vSwitch provides. Its design is such > that it should be fairly easy to include new control protocols; OpenFlow > is just a library in Open vSwitch. If you have issues with OpenFlow, > those would be better directed to the ONF or one of the OpenFlow mailing > lists. I am not subscribed to any of those - and besides that the openflow hype at the moment is so high on that wave nobody will listen ;-> The only reason i keep bringing up openflow is because your architecture in the minimal evolved from there (the fact you deal with flows and actions and switches). I could stop talking about it if it is offensive ;-> cheers, jamal