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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
Cc: John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	roprabhu@cisco.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	chrisw@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net, gregory.v.rose@intel.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, sri@us.ibm.com,
	Shradha Shah <sshah@solarflare.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v0 1/2] net: bridge: propagate FDB table into hardware
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:37:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1329489470.2272.28.camel@mojatatu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329364728.3048.159.camel@deadeye>

On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 03:58 +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:

> 
> Well, in addition, there are SR-IOV network adapters that don't have any
> bridge.  For these, the software bridge is necessary to handle
> multicast, broadcast and forwarding between local ports, not only to do
> learning.

For the scenario where there is no h/w bridge - the s/ware bridge should
be usable. There's no way working around that.
My contention is only with the case where there is a h/w bridge and
there being two FDB tables; one in hardware and another in s/w.
And both the h/w and s/w bridges doing flooding and learning.
It is desirable to have options to use one or other or both with
some synchronization.

> Solarflare's implementation of accelerated guest networking (which
> Shradha and I are gradually sending upstream) builds on libvirt's
> existing support for software bridges and assigns VFs to guests as a
> means to offload some of the forwarding.
> If and when we implement a hardware bridge, we would probably still want
> to keep the software bridge as a fallback.  If a guest is dependent on a
> VF that's connected to a hardware bridge, it becomes impossible or at
> least very disruptive to migrate it to another host that doesn't have a
> compatible VF available.

In the scheme i described to John in last email, libvirt needs not be aware of 
existence of hardware offloading (and migration should be transparent of whether
h/w bridge exists or not)...

cheers,
jamal


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-17 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-09  3:22 [RFC PATCH v0 1/2] net: bridge: propagate FDB table into hardware John Fastabend
2012-02-09  3:22 ` [RFC PATCH v0 2/2] ixgbe: add NETIF_F_HW_FDB to supported flags John Fastabend
2012-02-09  4:36 ` [RFC PATCH v0 1/2] net: bridge: propagate FDB table into hardware Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-09 17:36   ` John Fastabend
2012-02-09 17:40     ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-09 17:52       ` John Fastabend
2012-02-09 21:11         ` jamal
2012-02-10  2:14           ` John Fastabend
2012-02-10  4:14             ` John Fastabend
2012-02-10 15:18               ` jamal
2012-02-10 16:39                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-13 13:54                   ` jamal
2012-02-13 15:13                 ` John Fastabend
2012-02-14 13:18                   ` jamal
2012-02-14 18:57                     ` John Fastabend
2012-02-14 19:05                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-14 19:08                         ` John Fastabend
2012-02-15 14:10                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-02-16  1:26                         ` John Fastabend
2012-02-17 14:28                           ` jamal
2012-02-17 17:10                             ` John Fastabend
2012-02-18 12:41                               ` jamal
2012-02-29  4:40                                 ` John Fastabend
2012-02-29  5:14                                   ` John Fastabend
2012-02-29 13:57                                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-02-29 13:56                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-02-29 17:25                                     ` John Fastabend
2012-02-29 17:52                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-29 18:19                                         ` John Fastabend
2012-03-01 13:36                                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-03-01 22:17                                             ` John Fastabend
2012-03-02 13:20                                               ` jamal
2012-03-05 17:00                                             ` Lennert Buytenhek
2012-03-01 13:24                                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-03-01 14:14                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-01 22:10                                         ` John Fastabend
2012-03-05 16:53                                   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2012-03-06  3:45                                     ` John Fastabend
2012-03-06 14:15                                       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2012-03-06 13:42                                     ` jamal
2012-03-06 14:09                                       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2012-03-07 14:11                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-03-12  8:48                                           ` Lennert Buytenhek
2012-03-13 13:52                                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2012-02-16  3:58                 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-02-16 19:18                   ` Shradha Shah
2012-02-17 14:37                   ` jamal [this message]
2012-02-10 13:45     ` Roopa Prabhu
2012-02-09 18:14 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2012-02-09 20:30   ` John Fastabend
2012-02-10  0:39     ` Sridhar Samudrala
2012-02-10  0:51       ` John Fastabend

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