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From: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tom Lendacky <toml@us.ibm.com>,
	Cristian Viana <vianac@br.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] vhost-net: add a spin_threshold parameter
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:08:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1329840530.31413.6.camel@oc1677441337.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F433BD5.1070400@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 14:38 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On 02/21/2012 02:28 PM, Shirley Ma wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 13:34 +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> >> On 02/21/2012 09:35 AM, Shirley Ma wrote:
> >>> We tried similar approach before by using a minimum timer for
> >> handle_tx
> >>> to stay in the loop to accumulate more packets before enabling the
> >> guest
> >>> notification. It did have better TCP_RRs, UDP_RRs results. However,
> >> we
> >>> think this is just a debug patch. We really need to understand why
> >>> handle_tx can't see more packets to process for multiple instances
> >>> request/response type of workload first. Spinning in this loop is
> >> not a
> >>> good solution.
> >> Spinning help for the latency, but looks like we need some adaptive
> >> method to adjust the threshold dynamically such as monitor the
> >> minimum
> >> time gap between two packets. For throughput, if we can improve the
> >> batching of small packets we can improve it. I've tired to use event
> >> index to delay the tx kick until a specified number of packets were
> >> batched in the virtqueue. Test shows improvement of throughput in
> >> small
> >> packets as the number of #exit were reduced greatly ( the
> >> packets/#exit
> >> and cpu utilization were increased), but it damages the performance
> >> of
> >> other. This is only for debug, but it confirms that there's something
> >> we
> >> need to improve the batching.
> > Our test case was 60 instances 256/256 bytes tcp_rrs or udp_rrs. In
> > theory there should be multiple packets in the queue by the time vhost
> > gets notified, but from debugging output, there was only a few or even
> > one packet in the queue. So the questions here why the time gap between
> > two packets is that big?
> >
> > Shirley
> 
> Not sure whether it's related but did you try to disable the nagle 
> algorithm during the test?

This is a 60-instance 256 byte request-response test. So each request
for each instance is independent and is sub-mtu size and the next
request is not sent until the response is received. So Nagle doesn't
delay any packets in this workload.

Thanks
Sridhar

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-21 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-17 23:02 [PATCH 0/2][RFC] vhost: improve transmit rate with virtqueue polling Anthony Liguori
2012-02-17 23:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] vhost: allow multiple workers threads Anthony Liguori
2012-02-19 14:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 15:50     ` Tom Lendacky
2012-02-20 19:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 19:46         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-20 21:00           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  1:04             ` Shirley Ma
2012-02-21  3:21               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  4:03                 ` Shirley Ma
2012-03-05 13:21                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-05 20:43                     ` Shirley Ma
2012-02-21  4:32           ` Jason Wang
2012-02-21  4:51     ` Jason Wang
2012-02-17 23:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] vhost-net: add a spin_threshold parameter Anthony Liguori
2012-02-19 14:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  1:35     ` Shirley Ma
2012-02-21  5:34       ` Jason Wang
2012-02-21  6:28         ` Shirley Ma
2012-02-21  6:38           ` Jason Wang
2012-02-21 11:09             ` Shirley Ma
2012-02-21 16:08             ` Sridhar Samudrala [this message]
2012-03-12  8:12   ` Dor Laor

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