From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: jdb@comx.dk
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <netoptimizer@brouer.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sch_sfq: revert dont put new flow at the end of flows
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:04:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1331733899.2456.66.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1331724732.7651.58.camel@probook>
Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 à 12:32 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer a écrit :
> ons, 14 03 2012 kl. 04:52 +0000, skrev Dave Taht:
> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As the depth of the sfq queue increases it gets increasingly hard to
> > trigger the problem. I've been using values in the 200-300 range, and
> > in combination with red, haven't seen it happen.
>
> I don't think you should adjust the "depth", but instead "limit" or
> "flows".
>
> The problem can be solved by SFQ parameter tuning. Perhaps, we could
> just change the default parameters?
>
> The problem occurs when all flows have ONE packet, then sfq_drop()
> cannot find a good flow to drop packets from...
>
> This situation can occur because the default setting is "limit=127"
> packets and "flows=127". If we just make sure that "limit" > "flows",
> then one flow with >=2 packets should exist, which is then chosen for
> drop.
> My practical experiments show that "limit" should be between 10-20
> packets larger than "flows" (I'm not completely sure why this is
> needed).
>
There are many ways to starve SFQ if we dont revert the patch or add new
logic in linux-3.4
Even if we change default settings, we can have following situation :
SFQ in a state with several regular flows in queue, correctly behaving
because they are nice.
loop repeat_as_many_times_you_can_think
enqueue : packet comes for a new flow X.
OK lets favor this new flow against 'old' ones.
dequeue : takes the packet for flow X.
forget about flow X since dequeue all its packets.
endloop
All other flows are in a frozen state.
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2012-03-14 4:04 ` [PATCH] sch_sfq: revert dont put new flow at the end of flows Eric Dumazet
2012-03-14 4:52 ` Dave Taht
2012-03-14 5:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-14 6:07 ` Dave Taht
2012-03-14 11:32 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-03-14 14:04 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-03-14 17:22 ` Dave Taht
2012-03-16 8:56 ` David Miller
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