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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, john.johansen@canonical.com,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: security_sk_alloc() needed for unicast_sock
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:46:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1344534373.31104.34.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACLa4ptTfMzvhYk7_DaUJd-9u406FXf2CUHjn1mQrPDa4fFW4w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 12:05 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 11:07 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> >
> >> Is is possible to do the call to security_sk_alloc() in the ip_init() function
> >> or does the per-cpu nature of the socket make this a pain?
> >>
> >
> > Its a pain, if we want NUMA affinity.
> >
> > Here, each cpu should get memory from its closest node.
> 
> I really really don't like it.  I won't say NAK, but it is the first
> and only place in the kernel where I believe we allocate an object and
> don't allocate the security blob until some random later point in
> time.

...

>   If it is such a performance issue to have the security blob in
> the same numa node, isn't adding a number of branches and putting this
> function call on every output at least as bad?  Aren't we discouraged
> from GFP_ATOMIC?  In __init we can use GFP_KERNEL.

What a big deal. Its done _once_ time per cpu, and this is so small blob
of memory you'll have to show us one single failure out of one million
boots.

If the security_sk_alloc() fails, we dont care. We are about sending a
RESET or ACK packet. They can be lost by the network, or even skb
allocation can fail. Nobody ever noticed and complained.

Every time we accept() a new socket (and call security_sk_alloc()), its
done under soft irq, thus GFP_ATOMIC, and you didn't complain yet, while
a socket needs about 2 Kbytes of memory...

> 
> This still doesn't fix these sockets entirely.  We now have the
> security blob allocated, but it was never set to something useful.
> Paul, are you looking into this?  This is a bandaide, not a fix....
> 

Please do so, on a followup patch, dont pretend I must fix all this
stuff.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-09 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <50215A7E.8000701@linaro.org>
     [not found] ` <1344462889.28967.328.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
     [not found]   ` <5022FD9A.4020603@schaufler-ca.com>
     [not found]     ` <1695034.0lrQgQPOMT@sifl>
2012-08-09 14:50       ` [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: security_sk_alloc() needed for unicast_sock Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 15:07         ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 15:36           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 15:59             ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 16:05             ` Eric Paris
2012-08-09 16:09               ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 17:46               ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-08-09 20:06         ` Eric Paris
     [not found]           ` <CACLa4ptkvKj2GT4ZL+msMuWOHW885Hugk8nz3hvptOoY9-totw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-09 20:19             ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 21:29           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 21:53             ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 22:05               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 22:26                 ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 23:38             ` David Miller
2012-08-09 23:56               ` [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: unicast_sock should not land outside of TCP stack Eric Dumazet
2012-08-10  4:05                 ` David Miller

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