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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] NETDEV_UNREGISTER_BATCH seems unused nowaday ?
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:01:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1344610879.31104.2715.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcgq955v.fsf@xmission.com>

On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 07:45 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> Can someone help bring me up to speed.  What has changed in the
> dst ref counting that has invalidated our previous solutions?
> 

In fact your patch (850a545bd8a416484 net: Move rcu_barrier from
rollback_registered_many to netdev_run_todo.) reinstated the problem
again. You didnt notice, but other people can see the problem.

> As for the idea of putting an rcu_barrier inside of the rtnl_lock.  I
> really don't like it. You are trading off a 1000ms singled threaded wait
> without locks for extending the hold times of rtnl lock by 12ms or so.
> 

We probably can keep the rcu_barrier() in netdev_run_todo() and kick the
UNREGISTER_FINAL in netdev_run_todo() too.

I'll try that.


> We already have an rcu_barrier on that path in netdev_run_todo,
> so we can reorganize things to use that barrier I would be much
> happer.  Furthermore I talked to Paul McKenney a while ago
> about creating an rcu_barrier expedited and he really did not
> like the idea.
> 
> Reading through the code we really should get dst_rcu_free
> out of the header and make it non-line.  dst_rcu_free can't
> possibly be called from a location where it can be inlined.
> 
> Trying to understand your analysis I have stared at the code for
> a while and I am definitely not seeing any rcu callbacks that
> result in calling rt_free.  So one of us is missing something.

Recent commits add the rt_free() calls.

Of course, if you unregister a dummy device you wont see the problem.

If you unregister a real device, you definitely hit the problem.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-10 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-10  9:27 [RFC] NETDEV_UNREGISTER_BATCH seems unused nowaday ? Eric Dumazet
2012-08-10 10:42 ` David Miller
2012-08-10 11:06   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-10 14:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-10 15:01       ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-08-10 17:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-10 14:46     ` [PATCH] net: remove delay at device dismantle Eric Dumazet
2012-08-10 15:42       ` [PATCH net-next v2] " Eric Dumazet
2012-08-11  5:54         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-11  5:57           ` David Miller
2012-08-23  2:18           ` David Miller
2012-08-23  2:25           ` Gao feng
2012-08-23  2:51             ` David Miller
2012-08-23  2:58               ` Eric Dumazet

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