From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ben Hutchings Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] x86_64: Define 128-bit memory-mapped I/O operations Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:44:04 +0100 Message-ID: <1345653844.2709.51.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com> References: <1345598601.2659.76.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com> <503437D4.8090706@zytor.com> <1345601051.2659.93.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com> <20120821.193446.1534561579811962053.davem@davemloft.net> <503450E2.2040504@zytor.com> <1345642009.15245.0.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> <1345645499.15245.8.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> <20120822143054.GD9803@kvack.org> <1345647537.2709.0.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com> <5034F725.2090802@zytor.com> <1345650689.2709.32.camel@bwh-desktop.uk.solarflarecom.com> <50350098.6030100@zytor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David Laight , Benjamin LaHaise , Linus Torvalds , David Miller , , , , , To: "H. Peter Anvin" Return-path: Received: from webmail.solarflare.com ([12.187.104.25]:62952 "EHLO ocex02.SolarFlarecom.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753475Ab2HVQoI (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:44:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <50350098.6030100@zytor.com> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 08:54 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 08/22/2012 08:51 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> > >> FWIW can you even guarantee to do an atomic 64bit PCIe transfer > >> on many systems (without resorting to a dma unit). > > > > On any architecture that implements readq and writeq these had better be > > atomic. > > > > Sorry, you fail. There are definitely systems in the field where > readq() and writeq() are implemented, because the CPU supports them, > where the fabric does not guarantee they are intact. Well, when the issue of 64-bit MMIO was discussed earlier this year, you said nothing about this. I thought the conclusion was that any definitions provided by *must* be atomic and drivers can use or as a fallback. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings, Staff Engineer, Solarflare Not speaking for my employer; that's the marketing department's job. They asked us to note that Solarflare product names are trademarked.