From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>, Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>,
Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next PATCH V1 0/9] net: fragmentation performance scalability on NUMA/SMP systems
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:31:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1353810665.2590.4774.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121123130749.18764.25962.stgit@dragon>
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 14:08 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> This patchset implements significant performance improvements for
> fragmentation handling in the kernel, with a focus on NUMA and SMP
> based systems.
>
> Review:
>
> Please review these patches. I have on purpose added comments in the
> code with the "//" comments style. These comments are to be removed
> before applying. They serve as a questions to, you, the reviewer.
>
> The fragmentation code today:
>
> The fragmentation code "protects" kernel resources, by implementing
> some memory resource limitation code. This is centered around a
> global readers-writer lock, and (per network namespace) an atomic mem
> counter and a LRU (Least-Recently-Used) list. (Although separate
> global variables and namespace resources, are kept for IPv4, IPv6
> and Netfilter reassembly.)
>
> The code tries to keep the memory usage between a high and low
> threshold (see: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ipfrag_{high,low}_thresh). The
> "evictor" code cleans up fragments, when the high threshold is
> exceeded, and stops only, when the low threshold is reached.
>
> The scalability problem:
>
> Having a global/central variable for a resource limit is obviously a
> scalability issue on SMP systems, and even amplified on a NUMA based
> system.
>
But ... , what practical workload even use fragments ?
Sure, netperf -t UDP_STREAM uses frags, but its a benchmark.
The only heavy user was NFS in the days it was using UDP, a very long
time ago.
A single lost fragment means the whole packet is lost.
Another problem with fragments is the lack of 4-tuple hashing, as only
the first frag contains the dst/src ports.
Also there is the sysctl_ipfrag_max_dist issue...
Hint : many NIC provide TSO (TCP offload), but none provide UFO,
probably because there is no demand for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-25 2:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-23 13:08 [RFC net-next PATCH V1 0/9] net: fragmentation performance scalability on NUMA/SMP systems Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-23 13:08 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 2/9] net: frag cache line adjust inet_frag_queue.net Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-23 13:08 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 4/9] net: frag helper functions for mem limit tracking Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-23 13:08 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 7/9] net: frag queue locking per hash bucket Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-27 9:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-27 15:00 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-23 13:08 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 8/9] net: increase frag queue hash size and cache-line Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-23 13:08 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 9/9] net: frag remove readers-writer lock (hack) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-26 6:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-11-26 9:18 ` Florian Westphal
[not found] ` <20121123130806.18764.41854.stgit@dragon>
2012-11-23 19:58 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 1/9] net: frag evictor, avoid killing warm frag queues Florian Westphal
2012-11-24 11:36 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-25 2:31 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-11-25 8:53 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 0/9] net: fragmentation performance scalability on NUMA/SMP systems Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-25 16:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-26 14:42 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2012-11-26 15:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-26 15:29 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
[not found] ` <20121123130826.18764.66507.stgit@dragon>
2012-11-26 2:54 ` [RFC net-next PATCH V1 5/9] net: frag per CPU mem limit and LRU list accounting Cong Wang
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