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From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: netconsole fun
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:13:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1355580838.2467.39.camel@thor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121214142018.GA24846@shamino.rdu.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2012-12-14 at 09:20 -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> Ah!  I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was really about getting netconsole up
> early in the boot, rather than just getting it up robustly using the startup
> script.

Well, it's both but I should have been clearer here. Sorry about that.

> If thats the case, then I would recommend that you modify the initramfs
> to do something simmilar to the startup script (since thats where the netconsole
> module will get loaded anyway).  You can write a script there that will let you
> specify the destination ip address and figure out the output dev based on the
> routing tables.  If you're using dracut to build your initramfs, then this
> should be pretty straightforward.

When I get some more free time I'll experiment with this approach.

Just to clarify something from earlier in the discussion:

On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 13:08 -0500, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 09:49:31AM -0500, Peter Hurley wrote:
....
> > There is an unforeseen consequence of the patch: it breaks device
> > renaming because the device will already be in use by netconsole. Which
> > is the whole problem with userspace device renaming to begin with...
> > 
> That is bad, but see above, the netconsole service can work around this for you,
> allowing you to never have to specify a particular device at all.

The breakage is a normal consequence of being able to load netconsole
before the udev rules that do device renaming. The same thing would
happen modifying initramfs.

Basically, once netconsole attaches to a device, that device cannot be
renamed. Unfortunately, the default udev behavior messes things up
further because it will try to do this:
  eth0->eth1
  eth1->eth0
which means neither device will be renamed.

Maybe the net core should just implement persistent device names ;)

Thanks again for all your time,
Peter Hurley

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-15 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-10 14:17 netconsole fun Peter Hurley
2012-12-11  4:51 ` Cong Wang
2012-12-11 14:19   ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-11 14:30     ` Neil Horman
2012-12-11 15:16       ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-11 16:45         ` Neil Horman
2012-12-11 17:17           ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-11 21:19             ` Neil Horman
2012-12-12 20:59           ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-13 10:33             ` Cong Wang
2012-12-13 12:36             ` Neil Horman
2012-12-13 14:49               ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-13 18:08                 ` Neil Horman
2012-12-13 19:27                   ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-13 21:17                     ` Neil Horman
2012-12-13 22:24                       ` Peter Hurley
2012-12-14 14:20                         ` Neil Horman
2012-12-15 14:13                           ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2012-12-17 14:20                             ` Neil Horman
2013-04-29 17:28                               ` Peter Hurley
2013-04-29 18:21                                 ` Neil Horman
2013-04-30  2:44                                   ` Cong Wang
2013-05-03 19:07                                   ` Peter Hurley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-12-10 18:00 Peter Hurley
2013-05-05  0:59 Neil Horman

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