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From: Mike Galbraith <bitbucket@online.de>
Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:11:34 +0100
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On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 07:55 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote: 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Galbraith" <bitbucket@online.de>
> > To: "Tom St Denis" <tstdenis@elliptictech.com>
> > Cc: "Eric Dumazet" <erdnetdev@gmail.com>, "Waskiewicz Jr, Peter P" <peter.p.waskiewicz.jr@intel.com>, "David Miller"
> > <davem@davemloft.net>, "steffen klassert" <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
> > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Michal Kubecek" <mkubecek@suse.cz>
> > Sent: Sunday, 20 January, 2013 12:06:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: IPsec AH use of ahash
> > 
> > On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 05:30 -0500, Tom St Denis wrote:
> > 
> > > For those of us who do Kernel development during business hours
> > > it's
> > > hard to justify the work when the path to mainline is convoluted
> > > and
> > > landmined.
> > 
> > Sounds as though any patches you submit land on your dinner plate
> > just
> > like potatoes.  Hand the cook a pot of half peeled potatoes, he/she
> > may
> > say try again.  The result of a little extra effort is tastier taters
> > for everybody feasting at the common table.. including you.
> 
> No, in reality what happened is the chef made potatos [incorrectly]
> got busy and asked others to help out and make more potatos.  Then
> came back and said ...

Bottom line: either you grit your teeth and try again or you don't.
Calling the chef a big meanie doesn't put taters on dinner plates.

-Mike