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From: Toshiaki Makita <toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com>
To: Veaceslav Falico <vfalico@redhat.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp, vyasevic@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao <fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 0/4] bridge: Fix problems around the PVID
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 00:42:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1379173338.1730.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130913152114.GD695@redhat.com>

On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 17:21 +0200, Veaceslav Falico wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 09:06:53PM +0900, Toshiaki Makita wrote:
> >On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 16:00 -0400, David Miller wrote:
> >> From: Toshiaki Makita <makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:27:54 +0900
> >>
> >> > There seem to be some undesirable behaviors related with PVID.
> >> > 1. It has no effect assigning PVID to a port. PVID cannot be applied
> >> > to any frame regardless of whether we set it or not.
> >> > 2. FDB entries learned via frames applied PVID are registered with
> >> > VID 0 rather than VID value of PVID.
> >> > 3. We can set 0 or 4095 as a PVID that are not allowed in IEEE 802.1Q.
> >> > This leads interoperational problems such as sending frames with VID
> >> > 4095, which is not allowed in IEEE 802.1Q, and treating frames with VID
> >> > 0 as they belong to VLAN 0, which is expected to be handled as they have
> >> > no VID according to IEEE 802.1Q.
> >> >
> >> > Note: 2nd and 3rd problems are potential and not exposed unless 1st problem
> >> > is fixed, because we cannot activate PVID due to it.
> >>
> >> Please work out the issues in patch #2 with Vlad and resubmit this
> >> series.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >
> >I'm hovering between whether we should fix the issue by changing vlan 0
> >interface behavior in 8021q module or enabling a bridge port to sending
> >priority-tagged frames, or another better way.
> 
> Take a look at how was it done for bonding - it just goes through the list
> of attached vlan devs, and doesn't care about vlan0 (which can, btw, exist
> technically). I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for, but worth a
> try.
> 
> bond_arp_send_all() might be a good starting point.

Thanks a lot.
I looked over it and took it that bonding driver doesn't send any arp
probe as a priority-tagged frame even if the routing table tells that
the outgoing interface to reach the arp target is bond0.0.

If we seek to take a similar way with bonding, we might be able to
simply ignore vlan 0 interface, or incoming priority-tagged frames.
I'm, however, afraid that it may be undesirable in view of
interoperability.

Anyway, thank you again for your suggestion.
I'm going to think a bit more about the issue and rearrange the patch
set.

Thanks,

Toshiaki Makita

> 
> >
> >If you could comment it, I'd appreciate it :)
> >
> >
> >BTW, I think what is discussed in patch #2 is another problem about
> >handling priority-tags, and it exists without this patch set applied.
> >It looks like that we should prepare another patch set than this to fix
> >that problem.
> >
> >Should I include patches that fix the priority-tags problem in this
> >patch set and resubmit them all together?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Toshiaki Makita
> >
> >>
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-14 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-10 10:27 [PATCH net 0/4] bridge: Fix problems around the PVID Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-10 10:32 ` [PATCH net 1/4] bridge: Don't use VID 0 and 4095 in vlan filtering Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-10 14:22   ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-12 19:55     ` David Miller
2013-09-12 20:57       ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-10 10:34 ` [PATCH net 2/4] bridge: Handle priority-tagged frames properly Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-10 14:03   ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-11  7:00     ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-11 16:32       ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-12  8:08         ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-10 10:37 ` [PATCH net 3/4] bridge: Fix the way the PVID is referenced Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-10 14:08   ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-10 14:24   ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-10 10:39 ` [PATCH net 4/4] bridge: Fix updating FDB entries when the PVID is applied Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-10 14:24   ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-12 20:00 ` [PATCH net 0/4] bridge: Fix problems around the PVID David Miller
2013-09-13 12:06   ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-13 15:21     ` Veaceslav Falico
2013-09-14 15:42       ` Toshiaki Makita [this message]
2013-09-16 17:49     ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-17  8:12       ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-23 14:41         ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-24 11:45           ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-24 13:35             ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-24 17:30               ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-24 17:55                 ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-26 10:38                   ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-26 14:22                     ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-27 17:11                       ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-27 18:10                         ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-09-30 11:46                           ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-09-30 16:01                             ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-10-01 11:56                               ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-10-09 15:01                                 ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-10-11  7:34                                   ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-10-11 14:14                                     ` Vlad Yasevich
2013-10-13 16:11                                       ` Toshiaki Makita
2013-10-15 13:55                                         ` Vlad Yasevich

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