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From: Maxime Bizon <mbizon@freebox.fr>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	John Crispin <blogic@openwrt.org>,
	Jonas Gorski <jogo@openwrt.org>, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com>,
	Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4 net-next] net: phy: add Generic Netlink Ethernet switch configuration API
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 00:12:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1383088365.16822.22.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5267C6B9.4000704@mojatatu.com>


On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 08:53 -0400, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:

> So exposing the 5-8 ports as netdevs would be useful. Giving access to
> their stats through per-port netdevs etc. i.e a switch/bridge will 

While the intent is to make it look familiar to users, IMO this breaks
the rule of the least surprise.

>From a user POV, when you see a netdevice, you expect to be able to
receive or send packets from/to it. The ability to read stats/link is
only a secondary feature.

Wireless subsystem moved away from using dummy/additional netdevices
because it caused confusion.

multiqueue devices forced us to separate struct netdevice and struct
netdev_queue, maybe it's time for more surgery :)

-- 
Maxime

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-29 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-22 18:23 [PATCH 0/4 net-next] net: phy: add Generic Netlink switch configuration API Florian Fainelli
2013-10-22 18:23 ` [PATCH 1/4 net-next] net: phy: add Generic Netlink Ethernet " Florian Fainelli
2013-10-22 19:22   ` Dan Williams
2013-10-22 19:32     ` Florian Fainelli
2013-10-22 19:47       ` David Miller
     [not found]         ` <1382477150.19269.69.camel@dcbw.foobar.com>
2013-10-22 21:22           ` David Miller
2013-10-22 19:46     ` David Miller
2013-10-22 19:53   ` John Fastabend
2013-10-22 19:59     ` Florian Fainelli
2013-10-22 20:25       ` Neil Horman
2013-10-22 22:09         ` Florian Fainelli
2013-10-23 11:34           ` Neil Horman
2013-10-23 11:47           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-23 12:04             ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-23 12:53               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-23 13:31                 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-23 14:09                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-23 14:32                     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-25 11:43                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-25 13:01                         ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-27 17:19                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-27 18:14                             ` Florian Fainelli
2013-10-28 22:29                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-27 19:51                             ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-28 22:53                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-29  9:34                                 ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-30 11:45                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-30 12:53                                     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-30 17:27                                 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2013-10-30 17:34                                   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2013-10-30 17:56                                     ` John Fastabend
2013-10-30 17:56                                     ` John Fastabend
2013-10-30 19:47                                   ` Felix Fietkau
2013-12-07  1:45                                     ` Florian Fainelli
2013-10-29 23:12                 ` Maxime Bizon [this message]
2013-10-30 11:50                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2013-10-30 11:58                     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-10-30 14:28                     ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-22 18:23 ` [PATCH 2/4 net-next] tools: add Generic Netlink switch configuration tool Florian Fainelli
2013-10-22 18:23 ` [PATCH 3/4 net-next] net: phy: add Broadcom B53 switch driver Florian Fainelli
2013-10-22 18:23 ` [PATCH 4/4 net-next] net: phy: add fake " Florian Fainelli

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