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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Yuval Mintz <Yuval.Mintz@qlogic.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<e1000-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"vaughan.cao@oracle.com" <vaughan.cao@oracle.com>,
	"jesse.brandeburg@intel.com" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Ethan Zhao <ethan.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Ethan Zhao <ethan.zhao@oracle.com>,
	"linux.nics@intel.com" <linux.nics@intel.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"gleb@kernel.org" <gleb@kernel.org>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bruce.w.allan@intel.com" <bruce.w.allan@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"john.ronciak@intel.com" <john.ronciak@intel.com>,
	"david.vrabel@citrix.com" <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 V3] PCI: introduce device assignment interface and refactory related code
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:01:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1405951273.4463.4.camel@ul30vt.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B5657A6538887040AD3A81F1008BEC63B025FE@avmb3.qlogic.org>

On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 13:17 +0000, Yuval Mintz wrote:
> > >> > > > This patch introduces two new device assignment functions
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > pci_iov_assign_device(),
> > >> > > > pci_iov_deassign_device()
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > along with the existed one
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > pci_vfs_assigned()
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > They construct the VFs assignment management interface, used to
> > >> > > > assign/ deassign device to VM and query the VFs reference counter.
> > >> > > > instead of direct manipulation of device flag.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the late intrusion into the conversation, and perhaps it's
> > >> a bit unrelated, but given that you're creating a 'VF assignment management'
> > >> perhaps it's the right place to add some sort of mechanism in order
> > >> to prevent module removal once one of its VFs is assigned.
> > >> [e.g., incrementing module reference count]
> > >>
> > >> At the moment [to the best of my knowledge] there's no mechanism
> > >> preventing the 'not-so-bright' user from removing the driver, and no
> > >> good will come out of it.
> > >
> > > On what module would the reference count be increased, the PF?  The
> > > entire "VF assigned" interface is a hack to work around poor
> > > architectures like legacy KVM device assignment where there's no
> > > proper device owner for the VF.  This is "fixed" by using VFIO instead
> > > and hopefully deprecating legacy KVM assignment.  Thanks,
> >
> >   To explain what Alex said, in another word, if VMs access VF via VFIO driver,
> > the owner of the device is VFIO, in this case, if you unload PF driver, you still
> > need to unload VFIO first, then unload PF driver. but the PF driver knows how to
> > notify the VFIO driver to unload.
> >   But without VFIO like driver, for example some of current code will assign
> > devcie (PF/VF) directly to KVM or XEN without driver in the middle. and the PF
> > driver doesn't know how to unbind the assignment...
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought about perhaps incrementing the reference count of the PF's module
> [i.e., the module supplying the driver for the PF] directly, so THAT module won't
> be removable as long as the VF is assigned.
> 
> Although I don't know whether the module is even accessible; Can you derive a
> pointer to a module from a net_device struct?

A VF is not necessarily a net device.  A pci_dev does have a physfn
pointer though.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-21 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-11 12:30 [PATCH 1/2 V3] PCI: introduce device assignment interface and refactory related code Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 12:30 ` [PATCH 2/2 V3] PCI: implement VFs assignment reference counter Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 12:42   ` Varka Bhadram
2014-07-11 12:51     ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 12:56       ` Varka Bhadram
2014-07-11 13:01         ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 13:13 ` [PATCH 1/2 V3] PCI: introduce device assignment interface and refactory related code Alex Williamson
2014-07-11 14:15   ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-11 14:37     ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 14:54       ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-11 15:19         ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 15:25           ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-11 16:06             ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 16:13               ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-12  0:27                 ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-12  0:40                 ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-20 14:48     ` Yuval Mintz
2014-07-21  1:58       ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-21  3:17         ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-21 13:17           ` Yuval Mintz
2014-07-21 14:01             ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2014-07-21 14:11               ` Yuval Mintz
2014-07-21 14:39                 ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-21 15:10                   ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-21 22:41                   ` Alexander Duyck
2014-07-22  0:35                     ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-21  3:28       ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 14:20   ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 14:50     ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-11 15:07       ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-11 15:23         ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-11 16:02           ` Ethan Zhao
2014-07-21 22:29 ` Alexander Duyck
2014-07-22  0:38   ` Ethan Zhao

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