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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] ipv6: addrconf: fix mcast route for GRE devices
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:52:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1406739141.6757.22.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140730163140.GL801478@jupiter.n2.diac24.net>

On Mi, 2014-07-30 at 18:31 +0200, David Lamparter wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 06:09:27PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> [cut]
> > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:14:42PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> > > > On Mi, 2014-07-30 at 02:55 +0200, David Lamparter wrote:
> > > > > GRE devices, for some reason, were coming up with an autoconfigured
> > > > > address, but no ff00::/8 route in the local table.  This breaks any kind
> > > > > of multicast, in particular OSPFv3, mDNS, - and ND.  In fact, IPv6 only
> > > > > works at all because there is little need for ND on PtP devices.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Adding any other IPv6 address on the device would rectify this issue
> > > > > through inet6_addr_add()/addrconf_add_dev() - and would leave the route
> > > > > around even if the address was later removed.  (This is probably why
> > > > > this issue was not discovered earlier.  AFAICS it has been there from
> > > > > the beginning, e.g. aee80b5 "generate link local address for GRE
> > > > > tunnel")
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, this is poor, but changing this will break user space...
> > > 
> > > How exactly will this break user space?
> > 
> > Because the multicast routes will always be restored after e.g. a route
> > flush or manual route deletion. Scripts might depend on this.
> 
> Sorry, I still don't get it.  Without this patch you end up in an
> inconsistent state, where a LL addr exists, but multicast doesn't work
> (since ff00::/8 is missing from RT6_TABLE_LOCAL).

Sure, people can remove addresses and routes at will.

> Userspace is not supposed to touch RT6_TABLE_LOCAL in general, and, the
> kernel will actually refuse installing the ff00::/8 route into the local
> table from userspace (because there will be other ff00::/8 routes from
> other interfaces, so you get "File exists").  You can delete the route
> (and thus break mcast), but not add it.  The only way to add it is to
> add an address.

People really do flush the routing table.

I'll have a look why the addition of the multicast route throws an
error.

> Not changing this behaviour keeps breaking userspace;  ospf6d among
> other things assumes an interface has working IPv6 when a link-local
> address is present.

Yeah, but in the end, people also can drop specific packets and we
cannot do anything.

Bye,
Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-30 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30  0:55 [PATCH net-next] ipv6: addrconf: fix mcast route for GRE devices David Lamparter
2014-07-30 15:14 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-30 15:35   ` David Lamparter
2014-07-30 15:39     ` [PATCH v2] " David Lamparter
2014-07-31 19:06       ` David Miller
2014-07-31 19:37         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-31 20:19           ` David Lamparter
2014-07-31 20:53             ` [PATCH v3] " David Lamparter
2014-07-31 20:53               ` [PATCH 1/2] " David Lamparter
2014-07-31 22:05                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-31 20:53               ` [PATCH 2/2] ipv6: addrconf: clean up device type handling David Lamparter
2014-07-31 22:13                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-08-01  5:31                   ` David Miller
2014-07-30 15:58     ` [RFC alternate] " David Lamparter
2014-07-30 16:12       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-30 16:23         ` David Lamparter
2014-07-30 16:44           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-31  9:27       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-30 16:09     ` [PATCH net-next] ipv6: addrconf: fix mcast route for GRE devices Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-30 16:31       ` David Lamparter
2014-07-30 16:52         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2014-07-30 17:35           ` David Lamparter
2014-07-30 18:03             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-07-30 18:20               ` Dan Williams
2014-07-31 19:06             ` David Miller

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