From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Dumazet Subject: Re: [PATCH net] ipv6: refresh rt6i_genid in ip6_pol_route() Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:07:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1410152829.11872.84.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> References: <1410149905.11872.73.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> <20140907.212742.893555292268057160.davem@davemloft.net> <1410151434.11872.82.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> <20140907.215943.213418445039957641.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com, therbert@google.com, alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org To: David Miller Return-path: Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com ([209.85.220.42]:52858 "EHLO mail-pa0-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751398AbaIHFHM (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:07:12 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id lj1so1030019pab.15 for ; Sun, 07 Sep 2014 22:07:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140907.215943.213418445039957641.davem@davemloft.net> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 21:59 -0700, David Miller wrote: > From: Eric Dumazet > Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:43:54 -0700 > > > On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 21:27 -0700, David Miller wrote: > >> From: Eric Dumazet > >> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 21:18:25 -0700 > >> > >> > On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 15:54 -0700, David Miller wrote: > >> > > >> >> This might be broken. > >> >> > >> >> We are dealing here with persistent entries in the ipv6 routine trie. > >> >> > >> >> If you just bump the genid on the next person to look it up, other > >> >> sockets and cached entities might not have validated the route yet, > >> >> and now will falsely see the route as valid. We have to ensure that > >> >> they too drop this route and perform a relookup. > >> > > >> > I am confused, I thought it was the role of the cookie. > >> > > >> > (Ie socket has to store its own cookie to be able to validate a route) > >> > > >> > Before 6f3118b571b8 patch, how was this done anyway ? > >> > > >> > If persistent routes cannot refresh the genid, then they are useless ? > >> > >> I just speak about the genid aspect. > >> > >> I understand that cookie (via node->fn_sernum) invalidates the path > >> in the fib_trie, but the genid protects against other circumstances > >> (matching IPSEC rule, f.e.) > >> > >> You have to make sure all other sockets did a full route lookup > >> (including IPSEC) before you can safely adjust the genid. > >> > >> I could be wrong, recheck my analysis please :-) > > > > So this whole genid protection can not work, unless we make sure a > > socket cannot share a route with another socket. > > > > This means we have to clone all routes. > > I'm willing to revert the change in question if you think that's the > sanest way forward. > > The bug fix for more obscure use cases (IPSEC) if pointless if it > breaks more common things (TCP input route caching). Lets wait for Nicolas and/or Hannes input, they might have some ideas...