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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] ipv6: implement rt_genid_bump_ipv6 with fn_sernum and remove rt6i_genid
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:30:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1410424207.2672.21.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140910.130929.247064282043941043.davem@davemloft.net>

On Mi, 2014-09-10 at 13:09 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:31:28 +0200
> 
> > In case we need to force the sockets to relookup the routes we now
> > increase the fn_sernum on all fibnodes in the routing tree. This is a
> > costly operation but should only happen if we have major routing/policy
> > changes in the kernel (e.g. manual route adding/removal, xfrm policy
> > changes).
> 
> Core routers can update thousands of route updates per second, and they
> do this via what you refer to as "manual route adding/removal".

Sorry, I was too unspecific here. Route changes because of address
removal/addition on the local stack.

The reason why we do the bump_id here is that we want to flush all the
socket caches in case we have either lost or gained access to a new
source address.

If you think about e.g. BGP routers which update lots of routes, they
aren't affected and the flush won't happen on every route change.

> I don't think we want to put such a scalability problem into the tree.
> 
> There has to be a lightweight way to address this.

I am still investigating why this bump_id actually happened. Seems the
reason is only sctp ontop of IPv6 and maybe we can build something much
more lightweight, yes.

Thanks,
Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-11  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-14 18:19 Performance regression on kernels 3.10 and newer Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 18:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 19:50   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 19:59   ` Rick Jones
2014-08-14 20:31     ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 20:51       ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 20:46     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-14 23:16   ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-14 23:20     ` David Miller
2014-08-14 23:25       ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-21 23:24         ` David Miller
2014-09-06 14:45           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 15:27             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 15:46               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 16:38                 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-06 18:21                   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-07 19:05                     ` [PATCH net] ipv6: refresh rt6i_genid in ip6_pol_route() Eric Dumazet
2014-09-07 22:54                       ` David Miller
2014-09-08  4:18                         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08  4:27                           ` David Miller
2014-09-08  4:43                             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08  4:59                               ` David Miller
2014-09-08  5:07                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08  8:11                                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-08 10:28                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 12:16                                       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-08 18:48                                   ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-09 12:58                                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10  9:31                                     ` [PATCH net-next] ipv6: implement rt_genid_bump_ipv6 with fn_sernum and remove rt6i_genid Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 13:26                                       ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-10 13:42                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-10 20:09                                       ` David Miller
2014-09-11  8:30                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2014-09-11 12:22                                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 12:40                                             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 12:05                                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 14:19                                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 14:32                                             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-11 14:44                                               ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-09-11 14:47                                                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2014-09-08 15:06               ` [PATCH v2 net-next] tcp: remove dst refcount false sharing for prequeue mode Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 21:21                 ` David Miller
2014-09-08 21:30                   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-09-08 22:41                     ` David Miller
2014-09-09 23:56                     ` David Miller
2014-08-15 17:15       ` Performance regression on kernels 3.10 and newer Alexander Duyck
2014-08-15 17:59         ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-15 18:49         ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-15 19:10           ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-15 22:16             ` Tom Herbert
2014-08-15 23:23               ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-18  9:03                 ` David Laight
2014-08-18 15:22                   ` Alexander Duyck
2014-08-18 15:29                     ` Rick Jones
2014-08-21 23:51         ` David Miller
2014-08-14 23:48     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-08-15  0:33       ` Rick Jones

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