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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, klamm@yandex-team.ru
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] net: sysctl for RA default route MTU
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 21:27:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1427916447.1816412.248215129.072B6ABF@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150401.135532.1368728758929086692.davem@davemloft.net>



On Wed, Apr 1, 2015, at 19:55, David Miller wrote:
> From: Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>
> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:58:50 +0300
> 
> > 31.03.2015, 23:49, "David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>:
> >> From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
> >> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:35:48 +0200
> >>>  Could you quickly comment on what you had in mind? I guess it is about
> >>>  handling RA in user space on the end hosts and overwriting MTU during
> >>>  insertion of the routes?
> >>
> >> Even after reading your email I have no idea why you can't just have
> >> RA provide a 1500 byte MTU, everything else uses the device's 9000
> >> MTU, problem solved?
> > 
> > Because the MTU (provided by RA) is assigned to the device.
> 
> Ok, that severely limits the usefulness of this option I guess.
> 
> The next question I have is about the behavior of the new setting
> in the presence of an RA MTU option.  It seems like the sysctl
> doesn't override that RA MTU option, but rather just clamps it.
> 
> And then if it's in range, this controls only whether the default
> route has it's MTU adjusted.
> 
> That doesn't make any sense to me if we then go and do the
> rt6_mtu_change() call unconditionally.  The route metric update
> and the rt6_mtu_change() go hand in hand.

Agreed but that gets interesting:

I guess during testing the cnf.mtu6 value was equal to the newly
announced mtu value, so the rt6_mtu_change call does not happen. We
update cnf.mtu6 so a second RA packet would actually bring the system
into the desired state but we have a moment where the default route
carries a too big MTU. That's not good.

Easiest solution is to reorder those calls but that also leaves us with
a time frame where we carry the incorrect MTU on the default route.
Otherwise we must conditionally filter out the default routes.

Roman, any ideas?

Thanks,
Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-01 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150324.152705.921124268458994532.davem@davemloft.net>
2015-03-25  9:49 ` [PATCH] net: sysctl for RA default route MTU Roman Gushchin
2015-03-25 11:07 ` [PATCH v2] " Roman Gushchin
2015-03-25 12:34   ` Denis Kirjanov
2015-03-25 15:52   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]     ` <39171427301187@webcorp02f.yandex-team.ru>
2015-03-25 18:14       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-26 11:49         ` [PATCH v3] " Roman Gushchin
2015-03-26 14:49           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-29 19:42           ` David Miller
2015-03-30 12:30             ` Roman Gushchin
2015-03-31 20:05               ` David Miller
2015-03-31 20:35                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-31 20:49                   ` David Miller
2015-04-01  9:58                     ` Roman Gushchin
2015-04-01 17:55                       ` David Miller
2015-04-01 19:27                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2015-04-02 18:08                           ` Roman Gushchin
2015-04-07 15:58                             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-08 19:03                               ` Roman Gushchin

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