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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, marcel@holtmann.org,
	sfeldma@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, teg@jklm.no
Subject: Re: Problem with patch "make nlmsg_end() and genlmsg_end() void"
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:34:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1433856864.19447.25.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1428498482.2809.10.camel@sipsolutions.net>

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On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 15:08 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 13:03 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure if this is entirely fixed. In Fedora 22 (4.0.0-rc5-git4)
> > I'm occasionally seeing glibc deadlock in __check_pf() on a netlink
> > recvmsg(), here:
> > https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/check_pf.c;h=162606d7;hb=glibc-2.21#l166
> > 
> > As I understand it, this shouldn't happen. Even if messages are
> > dropped (which surely shouldn't happen as often as I'm seeing this),
> > glibc should get ENOBUFS from the recvmsg() call.
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209433
> > 
> > I haven't bisected and proved that it *was* this commit which
> > introduced the problem, as it only happens after a day or two of
> > running Evolution and I haven't managed to trigger it more reliably.
> 
> I don't see the connection to this change.
> 
> The issue with my patch was that some code for NLM_F_DUMP would have
> this pattern:
> 
>  int fill_function(...)
>  {
>     ...
>     return nlmsg_end(...);
>  }
> 
>  loop (...) {
>    if (fill_function() <= 0)
>      break; /* continue in next dump */
>  }
> 
> and that all had to be converted to be just "< 0" now.
> 
> Additionally, the failure mode of this was the process running out of
> memory due to receiving the same results over and over again - does that
> happen for you? It seems it was stuck in recvmsg(), but that may just be
> a side effect of happening to interrupt at that point?
> 

I don't think the problem was introduced by your change. At 
https://github.com/nahi/httpclient/issues/232 it seems to have been
observed even in November of last year.

I've added some debugging, and it seems that when it deadlocks, glibc
doesn't get *any* response to its RTM_GETADDR request. I know we'd get
ENOBUFS is a *response* was dropped... but what about when the request
itself is dropped? Does userspace get any hint of that? Is this purely
a glibc bug, for assuming its request got delivered and unconditionally
waiting for a response?

I don't know why it suddenly started happening to me in the 4.0 kernel
when I'd never seen it before, but it's still happening. I've put a
poll() in the glibc code (referenced above), and made it fail after a 5
-second timeout. That will at least prevent me from throwing my
computer out the window for the time being...

-- 
dwmw2

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-09 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-18 11:44 Problem with patch "make nlmsg_end() and genlmsg_end() void" Marcel Holtmann
2015-01-18 23:44 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-01-19  1:53   ` Scott Feldman
2015-01-19  2:10     ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-01-19  4:37       ` David Miller
2015-01-19  9:31         ` Scott Feldman
2015-04-08 12:03         ` David Woodhouse
2015-04-08 13:08           ` Johannes Berg
2015-04-08 14:12             ` David Woodhouse
2015-04-20 14:30               ` David Woodhouse
2015-06-09 13:34             ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2015-06-10  0:49               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-06-11  0:31                 ` David Woodhouse
2015-06-11  7:16                   ` David Miller
2015-06-11 22:03                   ` David Woodhouse
2015-06-18  6:38                     ` David Woodhouse
2015-01-19  8:53       ` Johannes Berg

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