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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] selinux: avoid nf hooks overhead when not needed
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 11:38:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1460713133.7410.2.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhSgWAoWgywOZOvT76jCcHuEywjFu5CKJo9D0k+66RbFCA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 18:53 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Will be ok if we post a v2 version of this series, removing the hooks
> > de-registration bits, but preserving the selinux nf-hooks and
> > socket_sock_rcv_skb() on-demand/delayed registration ? Will that fit
> > with the post-init read only memory usage that you are planning ?
> 
> The work Florian and and I were talking about would be limited just to
> the netfilter hooks, the LSM hooks, e.g. socket_sock_rcv_skb() and
> friends, would remain as they are today.  What what we discussing was
> defaulting to not registering the netfilter hooks until it became
> necessary due to a labeled networking configuration or the
> always_check_network policy capability; the registration of the
> netfilter hooks would be permanent, you could not unregister the hooks
> at that point, you would need to reboot.  Does that make sense?

Yes, AFAIC it makes sense. I'll try to follow this route for an eventual
v2.

> As far as Casey's concerns, I don't think the work we are talking
> about for the v2 patchset would have any effect on the socket/sock
> security blobs as you really can't manage those adequately from the
> netfilter hooks; you most likely will reference them and perhaps even
> update the data within, but not allocate or free the blobs.  Besides,
> even in some weird case you were alloc/free'ing security blobs in the
> netfilter hooks, we can deal with that on a per-LSM basis if/when the
> full fledged stacking patches are merged; everything we are talking
> about is a hidden implementation detail so changing it in the future
> shouldn't be a problem.

Casey, are you ok with the above?

Thank you,

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-15  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-06  9:51 [RFC PATCH 0/2] selinux: avoid nf hooks overhead when not needed Paolo Abeni
2016-04-06  9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] security: add hook for netlabel status change notification Paolo Abeni
2016-04-06  9:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] selinux: implement support for dynamic net hook [de-]registration Paolo Abeni
2016-04-06 22:32   ` Casey Schaufler
2016-04-06 12:33 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] selinux: avoid nf hooks overhead when not needed Paul Moore
2016-04-06 14:03   ` Paolo Abeni
2016-04-06 14:07     ` Paul Moore
2016-04-06 18:23       ` David Miller
2016-04-06 18:36         ` Paul Moore
2016-04-06 19:39           ` David Miller
2016-04-06 20:07             ` Paul Moore
2016-04-06 22:14   ` Florian Westphal
2016-04-06 23:15     ` Paul Moore
2016-04-06 23:45       ` Florian Westphal
2016-04-07 18:55         ` Paul Moore
2016-04-12  8:52           ` Paolo Abeni
2016-04-12 13:57             ` Casey Schaufler
2016-04-13 11:57               ` Paolo Abeni
2016-04-13 15:06                 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-04-14 22:53             ` Paul Moore
2016-04-15  9:38               ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2016-04-15 15:54                 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-04-06 21:37 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-04-06 21:43   ` Paul Moore
2016-04-06 21:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-04-07  7:59   ` Paolo Abeni

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