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From: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@sandisk.com>
To: "hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"ubraun@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <ubraun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: net/smc and the RDMA core
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 17:29:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1493659776.2665.7.camel@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170501163311.GA22209@lst.de>

On Mon, 2017-05-01 at 18:33 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Hi Ursual, hi netdev reviewers,
> 
> how did the smc protocol manage to get merged without any review 
> on linux-rdma at all?  As the results it seems it's very substandard
> in terms of RDMA API usage, e.g. it neither uses the proper CQ API
> nor the RDMA R/W API, and other will probably find additional issues
> as well.

Hello Dave and Ursula,

It seems very rude to me to have merged the SMC protocol driver without
having involved the linux-rdma community. Anyway, I have the following
questions for Dave and Ursula:
* Since the Linux kernel is standards based: where can we find the standard
  that defines the SMC wire protocol? If this protocol has not been
  standardized yet: in what file (other than *.[ch]) in the Linux kernel
  tree has this protocol been documented?
* What are the differences between the SMC protocol, the SDP protocol and
  the rsockets protocol? How do existing implementations for these protocols
  compare to each other from a performance point of view? If no performance
  comparison between these protocols is available, shouldn't the performance
  of these protocols have been compared with each other before a review of
  the SMC driver even started?
* What are the reasons why the SDP driver was never accepted upstream? Do
  the arguments why SDP was not accepted upstream also apply to the SMC
  driver (SDP = Sockets Direct Protocol)?
* Since SMC has to be selected by specifying AF_SMC, how are users expected
  to specify whether AF_INET, AF_INET6 or yet another address family should
  be used to set up a connection between SMC
endpoints?
* Is the SMC driver limited to RoCE? Are you aware that the rsockets library
  supports multiple transport layers (RoCE, IB and iWARP)?
* Since functionality that is similar what the SMC driver provides already
  exists in user space (rsockets), why has this functionality been
  reimplemented as a kernel driver (SMC)?

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-01 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-01 16:33 net/smc and the RDMA core Christoph Hellwig
2017-05-01 17:29 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
     [not found]   ` <1493659776.2665.7.camel-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-01 17:55     ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]       ` <HE1PR0502MB30048AFD086C4B0D535BFC52D1140-692Kmc8YnlL9PhveBwpv4cDSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 12:41         ` Ursula Braun
2017-05-02 15:37           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-05-02 12:34     ` Ursula Braun
     [not found]       ` <dce14470-06f4-8da3-6894-cd724eac3447-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 14:34         ` Doug Ledford
2017-05-01 21:04 ` Steve Wise
     [not found] ` <20170501163311.GA22209-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 12:25   ` Ursula Braun
     [not found]     ` <d9214af6-1c6f-9f95-fc00-3e4a316b4f81-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 18:39       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]         ` <1493750358.2552.13.camel-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-03 14:40           ` Ursula Braun
2017-05-04  8:43           ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]             ` <1b79048f-4495-3840-e7a6-d4fa5a8dfb57-NQWnxTmZq1alnMjI0IkVqw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04  8:48               ` hch-jcswGhMUV9g
2017-05-04 13:08                 ` Ursula Braun
     [not found]                   ` <efa9bd6d-1df9-952a-7f32-c2ee6bffcae5-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 13:15                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-05-04 15:31                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20170504153155.GB854-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-05 17:06                       ` Ursula Braun
2017-05-05 17:10                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-05-06  8:25                           ` hch
     [not found]                 ` <20170504084825.GA5399-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-11 16:50                   ` Ursula Braun
     [not found]                     ` <869d9fb6-0d83-5f57-f8e4-5c1ee7477b94-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-11 16:56                       ` hch-jcswGhMUV9g

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