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From: Christian Schoenebeck <linux_oss@crudebyte.com>
To: Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>
Cc: v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Nikolay Kichukov <nikolay@oldum.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/12] net/9p: allocate appropriate reduced message buffers
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2022 13:29:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1953222.pKi1t3aLRd@silver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YkhYMFf63qnEhDd0@codewreck.org>

On Samstag, 2. April 2022 16:05:36 CEST Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Christian Schoenebeck wrote on Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 02:23:18PM +0100:
> > So far 'msize' was simply used for all 9p message types, which is far
> > too much and slowed down performance tremendously with large values
> > for user configurable 'msize' option.
> > 
> > Let's stop this waste by using the new p9_msg_buf_size() function for
> > allocating more appropriate, smaller buffers according to what is
> > actually sent over the wire.
> 
> By the way, thinking of protocols earlier made me realize this won't
> work on RDMA transport...
> 
> unlike virtio/tcp/xen, RDMA doesn't "mailbox" messages: there's a pool
> of posted buffers, and once a message has been received it looks for the
> header in the received message and associates it with the matching
> request, but there's no guarantee a small message will use a small
> buffer...
> 
> This is also going to need some thought, perhaps just copying small
> buffers and recycling the buffer if a large one was used? but there
> might be a window with no buffer available and I'm not sure what'd
> happen, and don't have any RDMA hardware available to test this right
> now so this will be fun.
> 
> 
> I'm not shooting this down (it's definitely interesting), but we might
> need to make it optional until someone with RDMA hardware can validate a
> solution.

So maybe I should just exclude the 9p RDMA transport from this 9p message size 
reduction change in v5 until somebody had a chance to test this change with 
RDMA.

Which makes me wonder, what is that exact hardware, hypervisor, OS that 
supports 9p & RDMA?

On the long-term I can imagine to add RDMA transport support on QEMU 9p side. 
There is already RDMA code in QEMU, however it is only used for migration by 
QEMU so far I think.

Best regards,
Christian Schoenebeck



  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-03 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-30 13:23 [PATCH v4 00/12] remove msize limit in virtio transport Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] net/9p: split message size argument into 't_size' and 'r_size' pair Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] 9p/trans_virtio: resize sg lists to whatever is possible Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] net/9p: show error message if user 'msize' cannot be satisfied Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] 9p: add P9_ERRMAX for 9p2000 and 9p2000.u Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] net/9p: limit 'msize' to KMALLOC_MAX_SIZE for all transports Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] 9p/trans_virtio: turn amount of sg lists into runtime info Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] net/9p: add trans_maxsize to struct p9_client Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] 9p/trans_virtio: support larger msize values Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] 9p/trans_virtio: introduce struct virtqueue_sg Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] 9p/trans_virtio: separate allocation of scatter gather list Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] net/9p: add p9_msg_buf_size() Christian Schoenebeck
2021-12-30 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] net/9p: allocate appropriate reduced message buffers Christian Schoenebeck
2022-04-02 14:05   ` Dominique Martinet
2022-04-03 11:29     ` Christian Schoenebeck [this message]
2022-04-03 12:37       ` Dominique Martinet
2022-04-03 14:00         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-20 22:43 ` [PATCH v4 00/12] remove msize limit in virtio transport Nikolay Kichukov
2022-01-22 13:34   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-24 10:21     ` Nikolay Kichukov
2022-01-24 11:07       ` Dominique Martinet
2022-01-24 11:57         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-24 12:56           ` Dominique Martinet
2022-01-24 13:55             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-01-25  8:45           ` Nikolay Kichukov
2022-05-24  8:10         ` Nikolay Kichukov
2022-05-24 11:29           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-07-07 14:30 ` Christian Schoenebeck
     [not found]   ` <CAFkjPT=GAoViYd0E7CZQDq3ZjhmYT0DsBytfZXnE10JL0P8O-Q@mail.gmail.com>
2022-07-08  1:15     ` Dominique Martinet
     [not found]       ` <CAFkjPTngeFh=0mPVW-Yf1Sxkxp_HDNUeANndoYN3-eU9_rGLuQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-07-08 11:18         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-07-08 11:40           ` Dominique Martinet
2022-07-08 13:00             ` Christian Schoenebeck

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