From: Eric Lemoine <Eric.Lemoine@ens-lyon.fr>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Eric Lemoine <Eric.Lemoine@ens-lyon.fr>,
kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
hadi@cyberus.CA, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: PATCH Re: udp weirdness
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:58:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021003155841.GF601@hookipa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D9B0FF1.1070203@candelatech.com>
> > >It is difficult task, if possible at all.
> > >
> > >The main obstacle is that we must not block after select() succeeded,
> > >otherwise applications will lockup. Taking into account nature of datagram
> > >services (and generally of networking services, where routes change et
> > >al.)
> > >you do not know at time of select(), where the datagram will go.
> > >So, blocking can be made only based on a criterium not depending on this.
> > >problems with silent losses. People just do not care about this, so
> > >they get the thing which they deserve.
> >
> >Alexey,
> >
> >Would you mind explaining a bit more why apps will lockup if we block
> >after select() succeeded. Or anyone?
>
> Actually, I'm more interested to know why we would **need** to block after
> select has succeeded. It would seem to me that select is busted in this
> case. For the case of a very large UDP packet and a small send buffer,
> select gets confused, but at least when the send buffer is > 128k, it should
> be right...
With the current impl. process calling sendto() doesn't go to sleep
after select() has succeeded. My question applied in the context where
process goes to sleep when the qdisc queue is overflowed.
--
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-03 15:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-24 6:50 udp weirdness Eric Lemoine
2002-09-27 12:02 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-09-27 14:53 ` jamal
2002-09-27 15:04 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-09-29 14:47 ` jamal
2002-09-30 8:49 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-09-30 11:09 ` jamal
2002-09-30 12:10 ` jamal
2002-09-30 12:23 ` jamal
2002-10-01 0:22 ` PATCH " jamal
2002-10-01 6:35 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-10-01 9:51 ` jamal
2002-10-01 13:53 ` kuznet
2002-10-01 14:14 ` jamal
2002-10-01 14:26 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 14:40 ` kuznet
2002-10-01 14:52 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 15:31 ` kuznet
2002-10-01 16:16 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 16:41 ` kuznet
2002-10-01 17:17 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 16:42 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-01 16:58 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 17:55 ` jamal
2002-10-01 18:36 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 18:35 ` jamal
2002-10-01 18:54 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-01 19:03 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-01 18:52 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-02 11:13 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-10-02 14:09 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-02 15:25 ` Ben Greear
2002-10-03 15:58 ` Eric Lemoine [this message]
2002-10-03 16:29 ` kuznet
2002-09-27 15:19 ` Eric Lemoine
2002-09-27 15:57 ` Eric Lemoine
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