From: Jamal Hadi <hadi@shell.cyberus.ca>
To: "John S. Denker" <jsd@monmouth.com>
Cc: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>,
ralph+d@istop.com, CIT/Paul <xerox@foonet.net>,
"'Simon Kirby'" <sim@netnation.com>,
"'David S. Miller'" <davem@redhat.com>,
"fw@deneb.enyo.de" <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
"netdev@oss.sgi.com" <netdev@oss.sgi.com>,
"linux-net@vger.kernel.org" <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Route cache performance under stress
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:12:58 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030610080901.M37190@shell.cyberus.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EE5C7E9.6090401@monmouth.com>
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, John S. Denker wrote:
> On 06/10/2003 07:41 AM, Pekka Savola wrote:
> >
> >>Typical packet is around 500 bytes
> >>average.
> >
> > Not sure that's really the case. I have the impression the traffic is
> > basically something like:
> > - close to 1500 bytes (data transfers)
> > - between 40-100 bytes (TCP acks, simple UDP requests, etc.)
> > - something in between
>
> It helps to take a more sophisticated view of things.
> In typical networks:
> Most of the packet-count is to be found in small packets.
> Most of the byte-count is to be found in large packets.
>
> Some things (e.g. routing) depend mainly on the packet-count.
> Other things (e.g. encryption, layer-1 hardware requirements,
> memory bandwidth usage, ISP contracts) are sensitive to the
> byte-count.
>
> We shouldn't optimize one at the expense of the other.
You bring a good point.
Theres another dimension actually: mostly driven by BSD mbuff style
packet allocation; some tests show that some vendors are optimized
for certain packet sizes, Linux skbuffs dont have this problem.
We dont optimize for packet sizes given the linear nature of skbuffs.
Donalds ether drivers tend to amortize some of the costs by reallocating
skbs when the packet <= 100 bytes, but this is no longer valid with
skb recycling and the magazine layer appearing in the slab.
cheers,
jamal
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[not found] ` <20030517.150933.74723581.davem@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <87iss87gqd.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>
2003-05-18 9:31 ` Route cache performance under stress David S. Miller
2003-05-19 17:36 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-19 19:18 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-05-19 22:37 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-20 1:10 ` Simon Kirby
2003-05-20 1:14 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 1:23 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-20 1:24 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 2:13 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-20 5:01 ` Pekka Savola
2003-05-20 11:47 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-20 11:55 ` Pekka Savola
2003-05-20 6:46 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-20 12:04 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-21 0:36 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-21 13:03 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-05-23 5:42 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-22 8:40 ` Simon Kirby
2003-05-22 8:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-22 10:40 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-22 11:15 ` Martin Josefsson
2003-05-23 1:00 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23 1:01 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23 8:21 ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-23 8:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23 9:03 ` Andi Kleen
2003-05-23 9:59 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-24 0:41 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-26 2:29 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-22 11:44 ` Simon Kirby
2003-05-22 13:03 ` Martin Josefsson
2003-05-23 0:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-22 22:33 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-29 20:51 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-02 10:58 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-02 15:18 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-02 16:36 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-02 18:05 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 17:21 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 17:19 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-23 0:59 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26 7:18 ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-26 7:29 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-26 9:34 ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-27 6:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-08 11:39 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-08 12:05 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-08 13:10 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-08 23:49 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-08 23:55 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 3:15 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-09 5:27 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 5:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 6:28 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 6:28 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 16:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2003-06-09 16:37 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 7:13 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 8:10 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 8:27 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 19:38 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 21:30 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 22:19 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 22:54 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-13 6:21 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 10:40 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-15 6:36 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-17 17:03 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-09 22:56 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 23:05 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 13:41 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-10 0:03 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 0:32 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 1:15 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 2:45 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 3:23 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-10 3:41 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 18:10 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 18:21 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-10 4:34 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-10 11:01 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 11:28 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 13:18 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 16:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 10:53 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 11:41 ` chas williams
2003-06-10 16:27 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 16:57 ` chas williams
2003-06-10 11:41 ` Pekka Savola
2003-06-10 11:58 ` John S. Denker
2003-06-10 12:12 ` Jamal Hadi [this message]
2003-06-10 16:33 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 12:07 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 15:29 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-11 19:48 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-11 19:40 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-11 21:09 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-10 13:10 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 13:36 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 14:03 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 16:38 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 16:39 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 18:41 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-11 11:47 ` Was (Re: " Jamal Hadi
2003-06-11 18:41 ` Real World Routers 8-) Florian Weimer
2003-06-10 15:53 ` Route cache performance under stress David S. Miller
2003-06-10 16:15 ` 3c59x (was Route cache performance under stress) Bogdan Costescu
2003-06-10 16:20 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-10 16:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-06-10 17:02 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-10 17:16 ` 3c59x Jeff Garzik
2003-06-10 17:14 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-10 17:25 ` 3c59x Jeff Garzik
2003-06-10 17:30 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-10 19:20 ` 3c59x Jeff Garzik
2003-06-10 19:21 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-10 17:18 ` 3c59x Andi Kleen
2003-06-10 17:29 ` 3c59x chas williams
2003-06-10 17:31 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-10 17:39 ` 3c59x chas williams
2003-06-10 17:43 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-11 17:52 ` Route cache performance under stress Robert Olsson
2003-06-10 1:53 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-10 3:18 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 16:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 15:56 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 16:45 ` 3c59x (was Route cache performance under stress) Bogdan Costescu
2003-06-10 16:49 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-11 9:54 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-11 10:05 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-11 10:38 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-11 12:08 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-10 17:12 ` 3c59x David S. Miller
2003-06-10 17:19 ` Route cache performance under stress Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 15:49 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 17:33 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 17:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 18:34 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-10 18:57 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 19:53 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-10 21:36 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-10 21:39 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 22:20 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 23:58 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-10 23:57 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 0:41 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-11 0:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 0:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 0:51 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-11 1:01 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 1:15 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-11 1:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 1:51 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-11 3:33 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 11:54 ` gettime: Was (Re: " Jamal Hadi
2003-06-11 12:08 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-12 3:30 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-12 6:32 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-12 8:46 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 15:57 ` Ben Greear
2003-06-12 3:29 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 1:17 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-11 1:23 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-11 7:28 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-11 7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-11 17:40 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-13 5:38 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 10:22 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-13 17:15 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-12 6:45 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-12 13:56 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-12 21:35 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-13 10:50 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-10 0:56 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-09 11:38 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-09 11:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 12:18 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-09 12:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 13:22 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-09 13:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 8:56 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 22:39 ` Robert Olsson
2003-06-09 6:25 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 6:59 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 7:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 13:04 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-09 13:26 ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-09 5:44 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 5:51 ` CIT/Paul
2003-06-09 6:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 6:52 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 6:56 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 7:36 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 8:18 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 8:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 8:31 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 9:01 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 9:47 ` Andi Kleen
2003-06-09 10:03 ` David S. Miller
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2003-06-09 14:14 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 6:47 ` Simon Kirby
2003-06-09 6:49 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-09 13:28 ` Ralph Doncaster
2003-06-09 16:30 ` Simon Kirby
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2003-06-09 5:38 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-10 3:05 ` Steven Blake
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2003-06-08 17:58 ` Pekka Savola
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