From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com Message-ID: <20030629.151302.28804993.davem@redhat.com> References: <1056755070.5463.12.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030629.141528.74734144.davem@redhat.com> <1056924426.16255.24.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: greearb@candelatech.com, mbligh@aracnet.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com Return-path: To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk In-Reply-To: <1056924426.16255.24.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Errors-to: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org From: Alan Cox Date: 29 Jun 2003 23:07:07 +0100 What you don't get is that like you I'm distributing work. I'm getting end users to spot bug correlations - and thats why I want better tools I understand this part, it's great sounding in theory. But all the examples I've seen are you sifting through bugzilla making these correlations. I've seen no evidence of community participation in this activity. The greatest tools in the world aren't useful if people don't want to use them. Nobody wants to use tools unless it melds easily into their existing daily routine. This means it must be email based and it must somehow work via the existing mailing lists. It sounds a lot like what I'm advocating except that there's some robot monitoring the list postings. But then who monitors and maintains the entries? That's the big problem and I haven't heard a good solution yet. Going to a web site and clicking buttons is not a solution. That's a waste of time.