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From: Jeff Sipek <jeffpc@optonline.net>
To: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH - RFC] [1/5] 64-bit network statistics - generic net
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 13:57:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307041357.32871.jeffpc@optonline.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030704094745.GG29233@lug-owl.de>

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On Friday 04 July 2003 05:47, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
<snip>
> Well... I don't really like to break userspace, but why don't we simply
> make packet/traffic counters long long / u_int64_t? This way, we'd
> simply keep almost all drivers untouched and only need to fiddle with
> some sprints()/printk() statements?

I'm no hardware expert, however, that approach contains potential race 
condition - not a system critical one, but something we should be concerned 
about. If one cpu tries to read a u_int64_t variable while another tries to 
update it, the worst case scenario is that the reader will get the high 
32-bits before the write, and low 32-bit after the write, now if the counter 
overflow, the number would be off by 4GB! (This only applies to 32-bit 
architectures.) True, there are cache coherency algorithms, etc...

> Really, how many programs use the current statistics? I'd prefer to
> modify them over adding strange patches like this one to the kernel...

I believe that on any kind of router some at some point in time would like to 
know the data transfered.

Jeff.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-04 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200307032231.39842.jeffpc@optonline.net>
2003-07-04  2:46 ` [PATCH - RFC] [1/5] 64-bit network statistics - generic net Jeff Garzik
2003-07-04  6:02   ` Jeff Sipek
     [not found] ` <20030704094745.GG29233@lug-owl.de>
2003-07-04 17:57   ` Jeff Sipek [this message]
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0307032005340.8468-100000@home.osdl.org>
2003-07-04  5:27 ` Jeff Sipek
2003-07-05 18:49 ` Jeff Sipek
2003-07-05 21:46   ` Ben Greear
     [not found] <E19YtAq-0006Xf-00@calista.inka.de>
2003-07-05 20:37 ` Jeff Sipek
2003-07-05 20:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-05 20:59     ` Jeff Sipek
2003-07-05 21:51       ` Francois Romieu
2003-07-05 22:39         ` Jeff Sipek
2003-07-05 23:44           ` Francois Romieu
2003-07-05 22:54         ` Roland Dreier
2003-07-05 21:41     ` Ben Greear
2003-07-06  7:27       ` Alan Cox

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