From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: dang@fprintf.net, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
richard@aspectgroup.co.uk, skraw@ithnet.com, willy@w.ods.org,
carlosev@newipnet.com, lamont@scriptkiddie.org,
bloemsaa@xs4all.nl, marcelo@conectiva.com.br, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
linux-net@vger.kernel.org, layes@loran.com, torvalds@osdl.org,
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Subject: Re: [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:00:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030820100044.3127d612.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030820123600.14414I-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:49:14 -0400 (EDT)
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2003, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
>
> I have been asking for a similar thing as well, David mentioned some
> things that would break, but I believe they break if you use source
> routing, so that seems not to be a real objection.
It's not about source routing. It's about failover and being
able to use ARP on interfaces which don't have addresses assigned
to them yet.
> I find it interesting that we can't change networking because a few
> complex systems would have to be reconfigured, but we *can* change modules
> which requires config changes on probably 90% of all systems (commercial
> distributions).
Decisions about Networking will always be in a different domain
because the way one behaves has effects upon other systems not
just the local one.
BTW, another thing which makes the source address selection for
outgoing ARPs a real touchy area is the following. Some weird
configurations actually respond with different ARP answers based upon
the source address in the ARP request. You can ask Julian Anastasov
about such (arguably pathological) setups.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-20 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-19 12:02 [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-19 18:30 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2003-08-19 18:29 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 19:12 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2003-08-19 19:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 16:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-20 17:00 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2003-08-20 17:44 ` Ben Greear
2003-08-20 17:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 21:34 ` [RFC][2.4 PATCH] source address selection for ARP requests Willy Tarreau
2003-08-20 21:47 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 22:27 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-20 22:35 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 22:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-20 23:18 ` [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices Julian Anastasov
2003-08-23 20:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-20 19:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-20 20:07 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-19 19:17 ` Discussion fucking closed WAS(Re: " jamal
2003-08-20 5:31 ` ARP and knowledge of IP addresses [Re: [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices] Pekka Savola
2003-08-19 13:11 ` [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-19 15:34 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 17:39 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-08-19 17:36 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 21:01 ` Harley Stenzel
2003-08-19 16:19 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 16:54 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 17:15 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 16:56 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 20:09 ` Michael Richardson
2003-08-20 5:18 ` host vs interface address ownership [Re: [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices] Pekka Savola
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-20 20:10 [2.4 PATCH] bugfix: ARP respond on all devices Richard Underwood
2003-08-20 8:58 Richard Underwood
2003-08-20 15:23 ` jamal
2003-08-20 15:28 ` jamal
2003-08-19 22:12 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 22:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 23:15 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 23:51 ` Michael Richardson
2003-08-19 19:00 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 18:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 18:16 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 18:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 18:30 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-19 18:05 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 18:21 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 12:52 ` Harley Stenzel
2003-08-19 17:56 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 17:53 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 4:58 ` Steven Blake
2003-08-19 16:54 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 16:51 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 17:10 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 17:07 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 14:34 Richard Underwood
2003-08-19 14:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-19 15:07 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 15:57 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 16:52 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 16:53 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 17:12 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 17:09 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-19 19:01 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 19:19 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-19 19:16 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-20 8:49 ` Roman Pletka
2003-08-20 14:15 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-20 14:43 ` Roman Pletka
2003-08-20 15:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-20 16:47 ` Roman Pletka
2003-08-19 15:53 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-19 16:14 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 17:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-19 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-19 21:53 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-07-27 20:52 Bas Bloemsaat
2003-07-27 22:12 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 0:09 ` Michael Richardson
2003-07-28 2:31 ` Ben Greear
2003-07-28 7:33 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-07-27 23:40 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-27 23:46 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-27 23:58 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-27 23:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 0:11 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-28 0:14 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 0:35 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-28 0:36 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 0:53 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-28 0:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 1:23 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-28 1:35 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 10:43 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-28 17:09 ` Phil Oester
2003-07-28 18:56 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-07-28 22:36 ` Julian Anastasov
2003-07-28 4:37 ` David Lang
2003-07-28 4:39 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-28 10:49 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-07-29 2:51 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-07-29 4:48 ` Lamont Granquist
2003-08-04 6:10 ` Pekka Savola
2003-08-17 13:09 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-08-17 13:16 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-08-17 13:41 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-17 13:55 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-08-17 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-17 15:57 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-17 15:59 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-08-17 16:26 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-17 16:27 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-08-17 17:24 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-17 22:48 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 5:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 6:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 7:01 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 7:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 7:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 5:31 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 11:39 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 11:44 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 12:34 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 12:30 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 12:53 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 12:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 13:17 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 13:14 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 14:23 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 14:19 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 15:46 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 13:23 ` jamal
2003-08-18 13:21 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 13:40 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-20 6:55 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-18 21:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-18 13:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2003-08-18 12:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 12:53 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 14:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 14:28 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 12:08 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-18 12:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 21:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-19 3:21 ` Ben Greear
2003-08-19 15:22 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-19 7:58 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-17 16:51 ` David T Hollis
2003-08-17 16:45 ` Carlos Velasco
2003-08-17 17:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-17 19:46 ` insecure
2003-08-18 5:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-18 5:29 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-17 13:59 ` Bas Bloemsaat
2003-08-17 13:38 ` Alan Cox
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