From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
Robert Olsson <Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
Dave Miller <davem@redhat.com>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: route cache DoS testing and softirqs
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 02:36:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040330210648.GB3956@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040330204731.GG3808@dualathlon.random>
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:47:32PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> I see what's going on now, yes my patch cannot help. the workload is
> simply generating too much hardirq load, and it's like if we don't use
> softirq at all but that we process the packet inside the hardirq for
> this matter. As far as RCU is concerned it's like if there a no softirq
> at all but that we process everything in the hardirq.
>
> so what you're looking after is a new feature then:
>
> 1) rate limit the hardirqs
> 2) rate limit only part of the irq load (i.e. the softirq, that's handy
> since it's already splitted out) to scheduler-aware context (not
> inside irq context anymore)
There were a number of somewhat ugly softirq limiting patches that
Robert tried out (not spitting them to scheduler-aware context) and some
combination of that worked well in Robert's setup. I will see if I can
revive that. That said, we would need to find out how badly we affect network
performance with that thing.
> 3) stop processing packets in irqs in the first place (NAPI or similar)
>
> however I start to think they can be all wrong, and that rcu is simply
> not suitable for purerely irq usages like this. w/o rcu there would be
> no need of the scheduler keeping up with the irq load, and in some usage
> I can imagine that it is a feature to prioritize heavily on the
> irq load vs scheduler-aware context.
Not necessarily, we can do a call_rcu_bh() just for softirqs with
softirq handler completion as a quiescent state. That will likely
help with the route cache overflow problem atleast.
Thanks
Dipankar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-30 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-29 18:45 route cache DoS testing and softirqs Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-29 22:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 5:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-03-30 5:35 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-03-30 15:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 2:36 ` Rusty Russell
2004-03-30 14:43 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 19:53 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 20:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 21:06 ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2004-03-30 21:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 21:29 ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 7:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 20:05 ` kuznet
2004-03-30 20:28 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-01 6:00 ` kuznet
2004-03-30 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 21:30 ` David S. Miller
2004-03-30 21:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 22:22 ` David S. Miller
2004-03-30 22:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 20:46 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-31 21:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 21:52 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 22:33 ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 17:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-31 18:46 ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 20:37 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-31 21:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 21:43 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-05 17:11 ` Robert Olsson
2004-04-05 21:22 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-06 12:55 ` Robert Olsson
2004-04-06 19:52 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-07 15:23 ` Robert Olsson
2004-04-07 19:48 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-08 13:29 ` kuznet
2004-04-08 14:07 ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 22:36 ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 22:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-01 6:43 ` kuznet
2004-04-01 13:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 13:38 ` kuznet
2004-04-01 13:44 ` Robert Olsson
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