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From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se,
	paulmck@us.ibm.com, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: route cache DoS testing and softirqs
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 02:16:11 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040331204611.GC4543@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040330224902.GM3808@dualathlon.random>

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:49:02AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 02:22:10PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
> > Otherwise, keep in mind what I said, and also as Robert mentioned every
> > single local_bh_enable() is going to call do_softirq() if the count falls
> > to zero.
> 
> I was less concerned about the do_sofitrq in local_bh_enable, since that
> runs in a scheduler-aware context, so at least the timeslice is
> definitely accounted for and it'll schedule at some point (unlike with
> an hardirq flood). Actually the length of the default timeslice matters
> too here, lowering the max timeslice to 10msec would certainly reduce
> the effect.

That is there in my list of things to test.

> call_rcu_bh will fix the local_bh_enable too. The only problem with
> call_rcu_bh is how to queue the tasklets in every cpu (an IPI sounds
> overkill at high frequency, because effectively here we're running the rcu
> callbacks in a potential fast path).  OTOH if we've to add a spinlock to
> queue the tasklet, then we might as well take a spinlock in the routing
> cache in the first place (at least for this workload).

I don't do any of this. I just have a separate quiescent state counter
for softirq RCU. It is incremented for regular quiescent points
like cswitch, userland, idle loop as well as at the completion
of each softirq handler. call_rcu_bh() uses its own queues.
Everything else works like call_rcu().

Thanks
Dipankar

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-31 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-29 18:45 route cache DoS testing and softirqs Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-29 22:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30  5:06   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-03-30  5:35     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-03-30 15:11       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31  2:36     ` Rusty Russell
2004-03-30 14:43   ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 19:53     ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 20:47       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 21:06         ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 21:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 21:29         ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31  7:36           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 20:05   ` kuznet
2004-03-30 20:28     ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-01  6:00       ` kuznet
2004-03-30 21:14     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 21:30       ` David S. Miller
2004-03-30 21:37         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-30 22:22           ` David S. Miller
2004-03-30 22:49             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 20:46               ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2004-03-31 21:31                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 21:52                   ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-30 22:33           ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 17:10           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-31 18:46             ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 20:37               ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-31 21:28                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-31 21:43                   ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-05 17:11                     ` Robert Olsson
2004-04-05 21:22                       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-06 12:55                         ` Robert Olsson
2004-04-06 19:52                           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-07 15:23                             ` Robert Olsson
2004-04-07 19:48                               ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-04-08 13:29                           ` kuznet
2004-04-08 14:07                             ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 22:36                   ` Robert Olsson
2004-03-31 22:52                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-01  6:43                       ` kuznet
2004-04-01 13:16                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-08 13:38                           ` kuznet
2004-04-01 13:44                       ` Robert Olsson

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