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From: Jean Tourrilhes <jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, Gertjan van Wingerde <gwingerde@home.nl>,
	sfeldma@pobox.com, jkmaline@cc.hut.fi
Subject: Re: [RFC] Wireless extensions rethink
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:39:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040617203929.GA3341@bougret.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40D1F9C1.1040907@pobox.com>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 04:06:25PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
> >>The general API, yes.  But most driver-private interfaces will fail 
> >>miserably through 32/64-bit translation.
> >
> >
> >	That's fixable, and easy to fix, if needed. You have all the
> >data you need in the kernel.
> 
> Not really -- it's the same problem as SIOCDEVPRIVATE.  Driver-private 
> interfaces by definition change for each driver.  Translation of the 
> same ioctl differs on a per-driver basis.  Consider what happens when 
> passing pointers from userland, for example...

	I can assure you that I thought about that precise issue when
I re-designed the API in 91. I confirm that all the necessary data in
the kernel to do this properly.
	Proof : the "copy_to/from_user" is done in the generic code,
not in the driver. The driver export to the generic code all the data
needed to know where are those user pointers. What else is needed ?

> It was for this reason that we created the MII ioctls, which were 
> previously SIOCDEVPRIVATE.

	Totally different business. Those ioctls were totally
anonymous, with no meta-data.

> 	Jeff

	Jean

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-17 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-11 18:49 [RFC] Wireless extensions rethink Feldman, Scott
2004-06-15 16:39 ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-15 17:22   ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2004-06-16  9:13   ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 15:28     ` Gerald Britton
2004-06-16 17:40       ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2004-06-16 17:53       ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 19:06         ` Gerald Britton
2004-06-17  5:57         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2004-06-16 17:46     ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-16 19:06       ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 19:49         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 22:25           ` Scott Feldman
2004-06-16 20:50         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-16 20:42       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-16 21:36         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 22:33           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-16 23:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 23:11               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 17:47               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 18:23                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 18:26                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 18:30                     ` Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-17 18:51                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-06-17 19:00                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:10                         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 18:58                     ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:02                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:13                         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:34                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:44                             ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 20:06                               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 20:39                                 ` Jean Tourrilhes [this message]
2004-06-17 18:56                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:09                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:11                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 19:31                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-17 19:52                         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-17 20:46                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2004-06-18 22:11                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-18 22:54                               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-16 22:48         ` Scott Feldman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-07 19:51 Gertjan van Wingerde
2004-06-07 20:52 ` Ben Greear
2004-06-07 18:33 Feldman, Scott
2004-06-07 18:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-06-08 11:19 ` Herbert Xu

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