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From: bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel @ vger. kernel. org Stephen Hemminger"
	<shemminger@osdl.org>,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, alessandro.suardi@oracle.com,
	phyprabab@yahoo.com
Subject: analysis of TCP window size issues still around - several reports / SACK involved?
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:35:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040706093503.GA8147@outpost.ds9a.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040702013225.GA24707@conectiva.com.br>

On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 10:32:25PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:

> > > Rather than using *tcp_prot.memory_pressure, just go back to looking at
> > > tcp_memory_pressure.
> > 
> > Hehe, applied thanks Stephen.

People,

There are still persistent reports of TCP problems, even after patching away
the memory_pressure pointer problem. From one trace I've seen, by Alessandro
Suardi, but I lack the SACK knowledge to fully interpret these traces:

22:42:40.890025 192.168.1.6.32843 > 204.152.189.116.http: S 1994994484:1994994484(0) win 5840 <mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 4294940315 0,nop,wscale 7> (DF)
22:42:41.143063 204.152.189.116.http > 192.168.1.6.32843: S 1404108869:1404108869(0) ack 1994994485 win 5792 <mss 1452,sackOK,timestamp 3383469176 4294940315,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
22:42:41.143123 192.168.1.6.32843 > 204.152.189.116.http: . ack 1 win 45 <nop,nop,timestamp 4294940568 3383469176> (DF)

Alessandro's machine does perform window scaling, tcpdump however does not
understand that and neglects to multiply 45 by 2^7 (=5760). Kernel.org does do
wscale, but defaults to 2^0.

22:42:41.143362 192.168.1.6.32843 > 204.152.189.116.http: P 1:421(420) ack 1 win 45 <nop,nop,timestamp 4294940568 3383469176> (DF)

Alessandro's machine sends a GET request.

22:42:41.147669 204.152.189.116.http > 192.168.1.6.32843: S 1404108869:1404108869(0) ack 1994994485 win 5792 <mss 1452,sackOK,timestamp 3383469180 4294940315,nop,wscale 0> (DF)

www.kernel.org acts like it did not see our ACK.

22:42:41.147723 192.168.1.6.32843 > 204.152.189.116.http: . ack 1 win 45 <nop,nop,timestamp 4294940572 3383469180,nop,nop,sack sack 1 {0:1} > (DF)

Allessandro's machine sends a selective ACK - could have gotten away with a
regular one I'd think?

22:42:41.408763 204.152.189.116.http > 192.168.1.6.32843: . ack 421 win 6432 <nop,nop,timestamp 3383469440 4294940568> (DF)

www.kernel.org acks the GET, but from then on does not send anything.

After a minute, Alessandro gets bored and presses STOP in Mozilla:

22:43:41.051537 192.168.1.6.32843 > 204.152.189.116.http: F 421:421(0) ack 1 win 45 <nop,nop,timestamp 33189 3383469440> (DF)

k.o acks this FIN, but also sends a selective ack:

22:43:41.304371 204.152.189.116.http > 192.168.1.6.32843: . ack 422 win 6432 <nop,nop,timestamp 3383529343 33189,nop,nop,sack sack 1 {421:422} > (DF)

Here are the underlying reports:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/7/4/116 (Alessandro Suardi)
	The _only_ site I found I can browse without disabling TCP
	  window scaling is http://www.google.it.

	tcpdump at: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/incident/tcpdump.out 

http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/7/5/105 (Phy Prabab)
	Concerning my issue with ftp'ing from remote sites,
	using these sysctl's I was able to get the performance
	back:

	net.ipv4.tcp_default_win_scale=0
	net.ipv4.tcp_moderate_rcvbuf=0

	2.6.7-bk18 w/out sysctls:
	2573621 bytes received in 2e+02 seconds (12 Kbytes/s)

	2.6.7-bk18 w/sysctls:
	2573621 bytes received in 0.69 seconds (3.6e+03
	Kbytes/s)

These both refer to bk after the *tcp_prot.memory_pressure patch was
applied.

Thanks for your attention.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-06  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <32886.63.170.215.71.1088564087.squirrel@www.osdl.org>
     [not found] ` <20040629222751.392f0a82.davem@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20040630152750.2d01ca51@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net>
     [not found]     ` <20040630153049.3ca25b76.davem@redhat.com>
2004-07-01 20:37       ` [PATCH] TCP acts like it is always out of memory Stephen Hemminger
2004-07-01 21:04         ` David S. Miller
2004-07-02  1:32           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2004-07-06  9:35             ` bert hubert [this message]
2004-07-06 18:47               ` [PATCH] fix tcp_default_win_scale Stephen Hemminger
2004-07-06 19:40                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-06 20:05                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-07-06 20:28                     ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 20:36                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-07-06 20:35                         ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 21:55                           ` John Heffner
2004-07-06 22:50                             ` David S. Miller
2004-07-07  1:32                               ` John Heffner
2004-07-06 23:01                           ` PLS help fix: recent 2.6.7 won't connect to anything " bert hubert
2004-07-06 20:12                   ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 22:44                     ` bert hubert
2004-07-06 22:49                       ` David S. Miller
2004-07-07 18:06                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-07-07 19:31                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-07-07 19:38                             ` bert hubert
2004-07-07 19:41                           ` John Heffner
2004-07-09 23:14                           ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 20:00                 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2004-07-06 20:16                   ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 20:26                     ` David Ford
     [not found]                 ` <20040706185856.GN18841@lug-owl.de>
2004-07-06 20:17                   ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 20:31                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-07-06 20:33                       ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 20:24                 ` David S. Miller
2004-07-06 23:16                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-07-07  7:50                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-07-06 23:19                 ` Redeeman
2004-07-07 19:47                 ` John Heffner
2004-07-06 20:19               ` analysis of TCP window size issues still around - several reports / SACK involved? David S. Miller
2004-07-06 20:27                 ` bert hubert
2004-07-06 20:31                   ` David S. Miller
2004-07-07 21:25                   ` Alessandro Suardi
2004-07-06 12:30 ALESSANDRO.SUARDI
2004-07-06 12:42 ` bert hubert

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