From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:29:26 -0700 Sender: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com Message-ID: <20040915142926.7bc456a4.davem@davemloft.net> References: <4148991B.9050200@pobox.com> <1095275660.20569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4148A90F.80003@pobox.com> <20040915140123.14185ede.davem@davemloft.net> <20040915210818.GA22649@havoc.gtf.org> <20040915141346.5c5e5377.davem@davemloft.net> <4148B2E5.50106@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, paul@clubi.ie, netdev@oss.sgi.com, leonid.grossman@s2io.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Return-path: To: Jeff Garzik In-Reply-To: <4148B2E5.50106@pobox.com> Errors-to: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:23:49 -0400 Jeff Garzik wrote: > The typical definition of TOE is "offload 90+% of the net stack", as > opposed to "TCP assist", which is stuff like TSO. I think a better goal is "offload 90+% of the net stack cost" which is effectively what TSO does on the send side. This is why these discussions are so circular. If we want to discuss something specific, like receive offload schemes, that is a very different matter. And I'm sure folks like Rusty have a lot to contribute in this area :-)