From: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: ak@suse.de, colin@colino.net, akpm@osdl.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent netpoll hanging when link is down
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:07:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041007150756.2373719f.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041007215025.GT31237@waste.org>
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:50:26 -0500
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:
> > The only drawback is that there won't be a reply when the driver try
> > lock fails, but netpoll doesn't have a queue for that anyways. You could
> > probably poll then, but I'm not sure it's a good idea.
>
> But your meaning here is not entirely clear.
If another thread on another cpu is in the dev->hard_start_xmit() routine,
then it will have it's tx device lock held, and netpoll will simply get an
immediate return from ->hard_start_xmit() with error NETDEV_TX_LOCKED.
The packet will thus not be sent, and because netpoll does not have a
backlog queue for tx packets of any kind the packet lost forever.
NETDEV_TX_LOCKED is a transient condition. It works for the rest of the
kernel because whoever holds the tx lock on the device, will recheck the
device packet transmit queue when it drops that lock and returns from
->hard_start_xmit().
Andi is merely noting how netpoll's design does not have such a model,
which is why the NETIF_F_LLTX semantics don't mesh very well.
It is unclear if it ise wise that netpoll_send_skb() currently spins
on ->hard_start_xmit() returning NETDEV_TX_LOCKED. That could
result in some kind of deadlocks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-07 22:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20041006232544.53615761@jack.colino.net>
2004-10-06 21:43 ` [PATCH] Prevent netpoll hanging when link is down Matt Mackall
2004-10-07 5:53 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-07 6:49 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 8:33 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-07 8:45 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-07 14:05 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-07 18:28 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 18:41 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-07 20:00 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-07 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-07 20:44 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-07 21:45 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-07 21:50 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-07 22:07 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2004-10-07 23:43 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-07 23:50 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-08 6:46 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-08 21:53 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-08 7:06 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-08 22:00 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-08 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-11 3:59 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-11 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-11 16:22 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-11 16:32 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-11 16:36 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-11 16:43 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-11 16:58 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-11 17:41 ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-11 20:45 ` Colin Leroy
[not found] ` <5cac192f0410181443303379e2@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <5cac192f041018145824acce5a@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20041020161119.6e30efe5@pirandello>
[not found] ` <5cac192f0410200848179ccc81@mail.gmail.com>
2004-10-21 16:36 ` Colin Leroy
2004-10-24 15:22 ` Eric Lemoine
2004-10-07 22:08 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-08 6:54 ` Colin Leroy
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