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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, holt@sgi.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
	hirofumi@parknet.co.jp, torvalds@osdl.org, dipankar@ibm.com,
	laforge@gnumonks.org, bunk@stusta.de, herbert@apana.org.au,
	paulmck@ibm.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gnb@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Limit the size of the IPV4 route hash.
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:09:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041210130947.1d945422.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041210210006.GB23222@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com>

Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com> wrote:
>
> I realize I have a special case which highlighted the problem.  My case
>  shows that not putting an upper limit or at least a drastically aggressive
>  non-linear growth cap does cause issues.  For the really large system,
>  we were seeing a size of 512MB for the hash which was limited because
>  that was the largest amount of memory available on a single node.  I can
>  not ever imagine this being a reasonable limit.  Not with 512 cpus and
>  1024 network adapters could I envision that this level of hashing would
>  actually be advantageous given all the other lock contention that will
>  be seen.

Half a gig for the hashtable does seems a bit nutty.

>  Can we agree that a linear calculation based on num_physpages is probably
>  not the best algorithm.  If so, should we make it a linear to a limit or
>  a logarithmically decreasing size to a limit?  How do we determine that
>  limit point?

An initial default of N + M * log2(num_physpages) would probably give a
saner result.

The big risk is that someone has a too-small table for some specific
application and their machine runs more slowly than it should, but they
never notice.  I wonder if it would be possible to put a little once-only
printk into the routing code: "warning route-cache chain exceeded 100
entries: consider using the rhash_entries boot option".

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-10 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-10 19:00 [RFC] Limit the size of the IPV4 route hash Robin Holt
2004-12-10 19:48 ` David S. Miller
2004-12-10 21:00   ` Robin Holt
2004-12-10 21:06     ` David S. Miller
2004-12-10 21:09     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-12-10 23:27       ` Robin Holt
2004-12-10 23:38         ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-10 23:37           ` Robin Holt
2004-12-10 23:40             ` Robin Holt
2004-12-13  0:55               ` David S. Miller

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