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From: Hasso Tepper <hasso@estpak.ee>
To: "Martin A. Brown" <mabrown@securepipe.com>
Cc: Henrik Nordstrom <hno@marasystems.com>,
	Andrea G Forte <andreaf@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>,
	linux-net@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: primary and secondary ip addresses
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:53:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200412172053.28016.hasso@estpak.ee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0412171206200.10943@gargoyle.wi.securepipe.com>

Ühel kenal päeval (reede 17 detsember 2004 20:37) kirjutas Martin A. Brown:
> Hello Hasso and Andrea,
>
> We've gotten a little far afield from Neil Horman's initial question
> about why there are primary and secondary IPs, and I can't address your
> concern Andrea about the (route cache?) 500ms latency between the time
> that an address is added (or removed) from an interface and the time that
> the address is actually used.  Even so, the Linux routing code allows the
> kernel to suggest an IP with the "src" keyword.

I know.

>  : > Why change the primary address? What is wrong with simply changing
>  : > the route to use the other source IP?
>  :
>  : There is no support for it in most of user space software.
>  : None of the routing protocols suites support it etc.
>
> Though some software provides support for explicit configuration of
> source address for initiated sockets, you can use INADDR_ANY and let the
> kernel perform source address selection for you.

Well, that's the point - we want to have full control over this selection 
process without doing fancy things in user space. 

> Linux select an IP based on the routing table. [0]  Example:
>
>   # ip route show 192.168.90.0/24
>   192.168.90.0/24 dev eth0  scope link  src 192.168.90.250
>   # ip route change 192.168.88.0/24 dev eth0 scope link src $SECONDARY
>
> If you want to be fancy about it, you can have a higher preference
> routing table (make sure there's an entry in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables for
> $SECONDARY_TABLE).  Then you can add and remove tables in this routing
> table instead of changing the route in the main routing table.
>
>   # ip rule add prio table $SECONDARY_TABLE
>   # ip route add table $SECONDARY_TABLE $DESTNET dev $REALDEV src
> $SECONDARY

All these tricks don't help if you are using dynamic routing.

-- 
Hasso Tepper
Elion Enterprises Ltd.
WAN administrator

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-17 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <41912F7A.6000408@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0411100034320.10593@filer.marasystems.com>
2004-12-16  9:28   ` primary and secondary ip addresses Harald Welte
2004-12-16  9:53     ` Hasso Tepper
2004-12-16 10:07       ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-16 11:02         ` Hasso Tepper
2004-12-16 16:02           ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-17 15:10           ` Andrea G Forte
2004-12-17 15:27             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-17 15:58               ` Andrea G Forte
2004-12-17 16:39                 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-17 17:17                   ` Andrea G Forte
2004-12-17 19:17                     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-17 18:03                   ` Hasso Tepper
2004-12-17 18:37                     ` Martin A. Brown
2004-12-17 18:53                       ` Hasso Tepper [this message]
2004-12-17 19:25                         ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-17 20:55                           ` Hasso Tepper
2004-12-17 20:54                       ` Andrea G Forte
2004-12-17 19:20                 ` David S. Miller
2004-12-17 19:48                   ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-12-19 20:18                     ` jamal
2004-12-19 21:41                       ` Harald Welte
2004-12-19 22:02                         ` Thomas Graf
2004-12-19 22:59                           ` jamal
2004-12-19 23:56                             ` jamal
2004-12-20 13:55                               ` jamal
2004-12-20 14:29                                 ` Harald Welte
2005-04-12 10:54                                 ` Harald Welte
2005-05-08 12:31                                   ` Hasso Tepper
2005-05-26 18:11                                     ` Harald Welte
2005-05-26 18:21                                       ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-26 21:58                                       ` David S. Miller
2004-12-16 16:48     ` Paul Jakma

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