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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@dsl.pipex.com>
Cc: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, Nguyen Dinh Nam <nguyendinhnam@gmail.com>,
	Remus <rmocius@auste.elnet.lt>, Andre Tomt <andre@tomt.net>,
	syrius.ml@no-log.org, Damion de Soto <damion@snapgear.com>
Subject: Re: dummy as IMQ replacement
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:28:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050202132816.GP31837@postel.suug.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41FF9A55.4080005@dsl.pipex.com>

> >>WRT policers I never figured out where you would put the effects of 
> >>playing with the burst size parameter and it's effects with few/many 
> >>connections and any burstiness caused into an equasion like that.
> >
> >
> >A burst buffer has impact on R on later packets, it can "smooth" R
> >and X and thus results in more stable rates. Depending on the actual
> >burst, it can avoid retransmits which stabilizes the rate as well.
> 
> But it's not a real rate limiting buffer in the policer case is it?

Abstractly speaking, burst specifies the maximum amount of time allowed
for a single packet to sit in the burst buffer. Although the burst is
configured as the size of the buffer it is transformed into a time
delta before providing it to the kernel. Because the policer doesn't
enqueue things the packet simply gets dropped if it would exceed that
time. It's not _exactly_ like this but it gives you an idea what
happens, net/sched/police.c isn't that big so one coffee should do it.

> Nice - are you planning to add anything to tweak things for the wrong 
> end of the bottleneck problems?

I hope so, once I figured out an acceptable compromise between a good
result and simplicity. Currently it would be way to expensive and hard
to use.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-02 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-30 22:12 dummy as IMQ replacement Jamal Hadi Salim
2005-01-31  8:20 ` Hasso Tepper
2005-01-31 12:25   ` jamal
2005-01-31 12:38     ` Hasso Tepper
2005-01-31 12:47       ` jamal
2005-01-31 13:02         ` Hasso Tepper
2005-01-31 13:28           ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 13:45             ` jamal
2005-01-31 14:06               ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 14:29                 ` jamal
2005-01-31 13:39           ` jamal
2005-01-31 14:14             ` Hasso Tepper
2005-01-31 14:25               ` jamal
2005-01-31 14:46                 ` Hasso Tepper
2005-01-31 15:34                   ` jamal
2005-01-31 18:00                   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-01-31 20:08                     ` jamal
2005-01-31 13:58 ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 14:19   ` jamal
2005-01-31 15:15     ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 15:40       ` jamal
2005-01-31 15:59         ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 16:40           ` jamal
2005-01-31 18:15             ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 20:18               ` jamal
2005-01-31 22:53                 ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-01 12:02                   ` jamal
2005-02-01 12:51                     ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-01 13:13                       ` jamal
2005-02-01 22:44                         ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-02 14:24                           ` jamal
2005-02-02 15:40                             ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-02 15:55                               ` Thomas Graf
2005-01-31 20:28         ` David S. Miller
2005-02-01  1:02       ` Andy Furniss
2005-02-01 13:31         ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-01 15:03           ` Andy Furniss
2005-02-02 13:28             ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2005-01-31 16:27 ` Andre Correa
2005-01-31 16:51   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2005-01-31 22:39 ` Andy Furniss
2005-02-01 11:49   ` jamal
2005-02-01 14:53     ` Andy Furniss
2005-02-02 14:05       ` jamal
2005-02-04  0:33         ` Andy Furniss
2005-02-01 11:32 ` Andy Furniss
     [not found] ` <0fcf01c5077f$579e4b80$6e69690a@RIMAS>
     [not found]   ` <1107174142.8021.121.camel@jzny.localdomain>
2005-03-09 14:30     ` Remus
2005-03-09 14:38       ` jamal
2005-03-10  1:06         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2005-03-10  9:18           ` Remus
2005-03-10 11:22             ` jamal
2005-03-19  1:09               ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-19  1:45                 ` jamal
2005-03-19 10:23                   ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-20 13:20                     ` jamal
2005-03-20 13:55                       ` jamal
2005-03-20 18:31                         ` jamal
2005-03-21 22:08                       ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-21 13:14                 ` iptables breakage WAS(Re: " jamal
2005-03-21 21:50                   ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-21 22:41                     ` jamal
2005-03-22  1:15                       ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-22  3:31                         ` jamal
2005-03-22 21:09                           ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-23  3:57                             ` jamal
2005-03-23 19:33                               ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-23 19:45                                 ` jamal
2005-03-23 20:53                                   ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-23 21:07                                     ` jamal
2005-03-23 22:46                                       ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-23 23:12                                         ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-24  0:34                                           ` jamal
2005-03-24  1:00                                             ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-24  0:53                                           ` jamal
2005-03-24  1:08                                             ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-24 11:32                                               ` jamal
2005-03-24 11:57                                                 ` jamal
2005-03-24 15:41                                                   ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-25 11:13                                                     ` jamal
2005-03-25 12:39                                                       ` jamal
2005-03-25 17:27                                                         ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 18:34                                                           ` jamal
2005-03-25 19:01                                                             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 20:07                                                               ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 20:31                                                                 ` jamal
2005-03-25 20:37                                                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 20:54                                                                     ` jamal
2005-03-25 21:23                                                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 19:08                                                             ` jamal
2005-03-25 19:22                                                               ` jamal
2005-03-25 19:59                                                       ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-25 20:09                                                         ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 20:42                                                           ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-25 20:10                                                         ` jamal
2005-03-25 20:18                                                           ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 20:45                                                             ` jamal
2005-03-25 21:10                                                               ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 21:57                                                                 ` jamal
2005-03-25 20:20                                                           ` Thomas Graf
2005-03-25 20:48                                                             ` jamal
2005-03-25 21:01                                                               ` Thomas Graf
2005-03-25 21:48                                                                 ` jamal
2005-03-25 22:03                                                                   ` Thomas Graf
2005-03-25 22:20                                                                     ` jamal
2005-03-25 20:39                                                           ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 20:55                                                             ` jamal
2005-03-25 21:00                                                               ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-25 21:44                                                                 ` jamal
2005-03-25 21:18                                                           ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-25 22:12                                                             ` IMQ again WAS(Re: " jamal
2005-03-25 23:26                                                               ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-27 19:35                                                               ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 13:39                                                                 ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 13:45                                                                   ` jamal
2005-03-28 13:55                                                                     ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 14:08                                                                       ` jamal
2005-03-28 13:57                                                                     ` jamal
2005-03-28 14:12                                                                       ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 14:20                                                                         ` jamal
2005-03-28 14:28                                                                           ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 14:36                                                                             ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 15:24                                                                               ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-28 19:27                                                                                 ` jamal
2005-03-28 20:13                                                                                   ` Andy Furniss
2005-03-23  1:31                   ` Patrick McHardy
2005-03-23  4:01                     ` jamal

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