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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, anton@samba.org, okir@suse.de,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arp_queue: serializing unlink + kfree_skb
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:27:36 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050211012736.A25529@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050210195026.09b507e7.davem@davemloft.net>; from davem@davemloft.net on Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:50:26PM -0800

David S. Miller wrote:
> Absolutely, I agree.  My fingers even itched as I typed those lines
> in.  I didn't change the wording because I couldn't come up with
> anything better.

How about something like:

  Unlike the above routines, atomic_???_return are required to perform
  memory barriers [...]

I think "implicit" and "explicit" here are just confusing, because
you don't define them, and there's no intuitively correct meaning
either.

Perhaps a little warning could also be useful for the reader who
wasn't paying close attention to whose role is described:

  Note: this means that a caller of atomic_add, etc., who needs a
  memory barrier before or after that call has to code the memory
  barrier explicitly, whereas a caller of atomic_???_return can rely
  on said functions to provide the barrier without further ado. For
  the implementor of the atomic functions, the roles are reversed.

> You still get the memory barrier, whether you read the return
> value or not.

That might be something worth mentioning. Not that a construct
is used that gcc can optimize away when nobody cares about the
return value.

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-11  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-31 10:29 [PATCH] arp_queue: serializing unlink + kfree_skb Olaf Kirch
2005-01-31 11:33 ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-03  0:20   ` David S. Miller
2005-02-03 11:12     ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-04  0:34       ` David S. Miller
2005-02-03 14:27   ` Anton Blanchard
2005-02-03 18:14     ` David S. Miller
2005-02-03 20:30     ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-03 22:19       ` David S. Miller
2005-02-03 23:50         ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-04  0:49           ` David S. Miller
2005-02-04  1:20             ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-04  1:23               ` David S. Miller
2005-02-04  1:55                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-04 11:16                   ` Olaf Kirch
2005-02-06  1:14                   ` David S. Miller
2005-02-03 23:08     ` David S. Miller
2005-02-04 11:33       ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-04 23:48         ` David S. Miller
2005-02-05  6:24           ` David S. Miller
2005-02-05  6:50             ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-10  4:23             ` Werner Almesberger
2005-02-10  4:56               ` Herbert Xu
2005-02-11  3:46                 ` David S. Miller
2005-02-11  3:50               ` David S. Miller
2005-02-11  4:27                 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2005-02-11  5:04                 ` Dmitry Torokhov

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