From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
akpm@osdl.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [patch 1/3] fix buggy IEEE80211_CRYPT_* selects
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 00:07:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050304230718.GL3327@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4228DF62.4000205@pobox.com>
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 05:21:22PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:33:19PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >
> >>akpm@osdl.org wrote:
> >>
> >>>From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
> >>>
> >>>Some of the options that needlessly wrote in their help text which
> >>>options
> >>>they do select (patch already sent) didn't obey the most important rule
> >>>of
> >>>select
> >>>
> >>>If you select something, you have to ensure that the dependencies
> >>>of what you do select are fulfilled.
> >>
> >>>diff -puN net/ieee80211/Kconfig~fix-buggy-ieee80211_crypt_-selects
> >>>net/ieee80211/Kconfig
> >>>--- 25/net/ieee80211/Kconfig~fix-buggy-ieee80211_crypt_-selects
> >>>2005-02-28 14:49:54.000000000 -0800
> >>>+++ 25-akpm/net/ieee80211/Kconfig 2005-02-28 14:49:54.000000000 -0800
> >>>@@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ config IEEE80211_CRYPT_WEP
> >>>config IEEE80211_CRYPT_CCMP
> >>> tristate "IEEE 802.11i CCMP support"
> >>> depends on IEEE80211
> >>>+ select CRYPTO
> >>> select CRYPTO_AES
> >>> ---help---
> >>> Include software based cipher suites in support of IEEE 802.11i
> >>>@@ -56,6 +57,7 @@ config IEEE80211_CRYPT_CCMP
> >>>config IEEE80211_CRYPT_TKIP
> >>> tristate "IEEE 802.11i TKIP encryption"
> >>> depends on IEEE80211
> >>>+ select CRYPTO
> >>> select CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC
> >>> ---help---
> >>
> >>
> >>You are resending the old patch that is incorrect. We don't need
> >>multiple selects, CRYPTO_AES and CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC should pull things in.
> >
> >
> >As I already said, this implies that options like CRYPTO_AES and
> >CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC can no longer depend on CRYPTO.
>
> No. Because CRYPTO_AES and CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC __obviously__ depend on
> CRYPTO, it should select CRYPTO automatically given the existing entries.
>
> Otherwise, we must start specifying dependency chains in every damn
> Kconfig entry, which is completely illogical and a maintenance nightmare.
The way kconfig currently works, you have to ensure that the
dependencies of what you select are fulfilled.
And handling dependencies as select chains creates some subtle problems:
Consider the following example:
config A
tristate "foo"
depends on !B && (C || D)
config E
tristate "bar"
select B
config F
tristate "42"
select A
With:
A=n
B=y
C=n
D=n
E=y
What values of the variables A-E do you expect exactly if the user turns
on F?
Or even better, the code in question as a example due to the current
confusing CRYPTO_AES dependencies (discussed in another thread and will
be solved):
config IEEE80211_CRYPT_CCMP
tristate "IEEE 802.11i CCMP support"
depends on IEEE80211
select CRYPTO_AES
config CRYPTO_AES
tristate "AES cipher algorithms"
depends on CRYPTO && !(X86 && !X86_64)
On i386, should your "select CRYPTO_AES" set X86=n or X86_64=y ?
This would create even nastier bugs if it was hidden somewhere in a
dependency chain.
Some people say that you mustn't select an user-visible option - this
way you avoid any such problems.
This would mean you weren't allowed to select CRYPTO or CRYPTO_AES or
CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC.
I'm less dogmatic regarding this because I care more about the usability
of the kernel config system than about such rules, but what you want is
simply not possible in a reasonable way.
> Jeff
cu
Adrian
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-04 23:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-04 12:37 [patch 1/3] fix buggy IEEE80211_CRYPT_* selects akpm
2005-03-04 17:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-04 22:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-04 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-04 23:07 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-03-06 9:09 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-06 18:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-06 19:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-03-06 19:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-06 21:09 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-09 20:21 ` Jeff Garzik
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20050304230718.GL3327@stusta.de \
--to=bunk@stusta.de \
--cc=akpm@osdl.org \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=herbert@gondor.apana.org.au \
--cc=jgarzik@pobox.com \
--cc=netdev@oss.sgi.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).