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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s390: claw network device driver
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:02:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050329000239.6346d73e.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42490763.5010008@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> > Was cc'ed to linux-net last Thursday, but it looks like the messages was
> >> > too large and the vger server munched it.
> >>
> >> This also brings up a larger question... why was a completely unreviewed
> >> net driver merged?
> > 
> > 
> > Because nobody noticed that it didn't make it to the mailing list,
> > obviously.
> 
> That's ducking the question.  Let me rephrase.
> 
> Why was a complete lack of response judged to be an ACK?

That's not uncommon.  I don't ask people "are you reading the mailing list
which you should be reading" unless I think it's someone who doesn't read
the mailing lists which they should be reading.

> For new drivers, that's a -horrible- precedent.  You are quite skilled 
> at poking random hackers :)  why not poke somebody to ack a new drivers? 

In this case I didn't think about it very hard, sorry - figured it was s390
stuff and it hence falls under the "if it breaks, it's the s390 team's
problem" exemption.

>   It's not like this driver (or many of the other new drivers) 
> desperately need to get into the kernel ASAP, so desperate that a lack 
> of review was OK.

True.  But it's not as if we can't fix stuff up after it's merged up.  The
reasons for holding off on a merge would be:

a) We're not sure that the feature should be merged at all

b) Holding off on a merge is a tool we use to motivate the submitter to
   fix the code up

c) The merge breaks existing stuff.

I don't think any of those things apply here.  The only downside is the
increased bk patch volume.

That being said, if there had been review comments I would have delayed the
merge.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-29  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200503290533.j2T5XEYT028850@hera.kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <4248FBFD.5000809@pobox.com>
2005-03-29  7:08   ` [PATCH] s390: claw network device driver Andrew Morton
2005-03-29  7:10     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-29  7:48       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-03-29 20:05         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-30  7:49           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-03-29 15:20       ` Jörn Engel
2005-03-29 20:06         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-29 21:25           ` Jörn Engel
2005-03-29 22:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-30  9:49               ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-08 20:16           ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-09 13:52             ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-12  6:20               ` [PATCH] Maintainers list update: linux-net -> netdev Horms
2005-04-12 19:14                 ` George Anzinger
2005-04-13  2:14                   ` Horms
2005-04-13 22:42                     ` George Anzinger
2005-03-29  7:12     ` [PATCH] s390: claw network device driver Jeff Garzik
2005-03-29  7:23       ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-29  7:44         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-29  8:02           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-03-29 20:02             ` Jeff Garzik

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