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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
Cc: dmitry_yus@yahoo.com, open-iscsi@googlegroups.com,
	mpm@selenic.com, andrea@suse.de, michaelc@cs.wisc.edu,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com,
	ksummit-2005-discuss@thunk.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Linux support for RDMA (was: [Ksummit-2005-discuss] Summary of 2005 Kernel Summit Proposed Topics)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:10:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050404001000.5fa8f206.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050404063456.GB30855@colo.lackof.org>

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:34:56 -0600
Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org> wrote:

> Yes and No. PCI-X isn't fast enough but the data only crosses
> the PCI-X bus once.  Think about the data flow:
> 	1) DMA to RAM
> 	2) load into CPU cache
> 	3) store back into RAM
> 
> We are down to 40% left...graphics folks won't like you.

But you're missing the point, which is that the memory system
always catches up to the networking technology.

We'll have that %60 back before you know it when we have
PCI-Z and DDR8 or whatever even in $500.00USD desktop machines.

And those systems will be present by the time we put together
this complicated infrastructure for RDMA.

RDMA is like cache coloring page allocators, it's for yesterday's
technology that we won't be using tomorrow. :-)

Those steps #2 and #3 in your data flow are powerful, it is what
gives us flexibility.  And in a general purpose OS that is important.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-04  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-02 19:07 [Ksummit-2005-discuss] Summary of 2005 Kernel Summit ProposedTopics Asgeir Eiriksson
2005-04-02 19:14 ` Ming Zhang
2005-04-04  0:56 ` Linux support for RDMA (was: [Ksummit-2005-discuss] Summary of 2005 Kernel Summit Proposed Topics) Dmitry Yusupov
2005-04-04  6:34   ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-04  7:10     ` David S. Miller [this message]
2005-04-04 12:58       ` Ming Zhang
2005-04-04 16:31       ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-04 12:56     ` Ming Zhang
2005-04-04 16:54     ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-04-04 19:11       ` Grant Grundler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-05 22:19 jaganav
2005-04-02  7:29 jaganav
2005-04-02 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-04-03  1:26 ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-05 15:04 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-01  2:13 jaganav
2005-04-01 23:43 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-04-02  1:37   ` jaganav
2005-04-02  5:27     ` Greg KH
2005-04-02  6:02       ` Greg KH
2005-04-02 15:01         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-04 16:50     ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found] <4241D106.8050302@cs.wisc.edu>
     [not found] ` <20050324101622S.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
     [not found]   ` <1111628393.1548.307.camel@beastie>
     [not found]     ` <20050324113312W.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
     [not found]       ` <1111633846.1548.318.camel@beastie>
     [not found]         ` <20050324215922.GT14202@opteron.random>
     [not found]           ` <424346FE.20704@cs.wisc.edu>
     [not found]             ` <20050324233921.GZ14202@opteron.random>
     [not found]               ` <20050325034341.GV32638@waste.org>
     [not found]                 ` <20050327035149.GD4053@g5.random>
2005-03-27  5:48                   ` [Ksummit-2005-discuss] Summary of 2005 Kernel Summit Proposed Topics Matt Mackall
2005-03-27  6:33                     ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-03-27  6:46                       ` David S. Miller
2005-03-28 19:45                         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                           ` <1112042936.5088.22.camel@beastie>
2005-03-28 22:32                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-03-29  3:19                               ` Linux support for RDMA (was: [Ksummit-2005-discuss] Summary of 2005 Kernel Summit Proposed Topics) Roland Dreier
2005-03-30 16:00                                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-03-29  3:14                             ` Roland Dreier

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