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From: Jon Mason <jdmason@us.ibm.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: mitch.a.williams@intel.com, hadi@cyberus.ca, shemminger@osdl.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com, Robert.Olsson@data.slu.se,
	john.ronciak@intel.com, ganesh.venkatesan@intel.com,
	jesse.brandeburg@intel.com
Subject: Re: RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:28:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200505311828.44304.jdmason@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050531.151443.74564699.davem@davemloft.net>

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 05:14 pm, David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Jon Mason <jdmason@us.ibm.com>
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:07:54 -0500
>
> > Of course some performace analysis would have to be done to determine the
> > optimal numbers for each speed/duplexity setting per driver.
>
> per cpu speed, per memory bus speed, per I/O bus speed, and add in other
> complications such as NUMA
>
> My point is that whatever experimental number you come up with will be
> good for that driver on your systems, not necessarily for others.
>
> Even within a system, whatever number you select will be the wrong
> thing to use if one starts a continuous I/O stream to the SATA
> controller in the next PCI slot, for example.
>
> We keep getting bitten by this, as the Altix perf data continually shows,
> and we need to absolutely stop thinking this way.
>
> The way to go is to make selections based upon observed events and
> mesaurements.

I'm not arguing against a /proc entry to tune dev->weight for those sysadmins 
advanced enough to do that.  I am arguing that we can make the driver smarter 
(at little/no cost)  for "out of the box" users.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-31 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-26 21:36 RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch Mitch Williams
2005-05-27  8:21 ` Robert Olsson
2005-05-27 11:18 ` jamal
2005-05-27 15:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-27 20:27   ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-27 21:01     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-28  0:56       ` jamal
2005-05-31 17:35         ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-31 17:40           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-05-31 17:43             ` Mitch Williams
2005-05-31 22:07           ` Jon Mason
2005-05-31 22:14             ` David S. Miller
2005-05-31 23:28               ` Jon Mason [this message]
2005-06-02 12:26                 ` jamal
2005-06-02 17:30                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-02 18:14 ` [PATCH] net: allow controlling NAPI weight with sysfs Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-08 21:24   ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 18:19 ` [PATCH] net: fix sysctl_ Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-02 21:19 RFC: NAPI packet weighting patch Ronciak, John
2005-06-02 21:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-02 21:40   ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 21:51   ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 22:12     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-02 22:19       ` Jon Mason
2005-06-02 22:15     ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-03  0:11 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03  0:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03  2:32   ` jamal
2005-06-03 17:43     ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 18:38       ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:42       ` jamal
2005-06-03 19:01         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 19:28           ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 19:59             ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:31               ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 21:12                 ` Jon Mason
2005-06-03 20:22             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 20:29               ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 19:49                 ` Michael Chan
2005-06-03 20:59                   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-03 20:35                     ` Michael Chan
2005-06-03 22:29                       ` jamal
2005-06-04  0:25                         ` Michael Chan
2005-06-05 21:36                           ` David S. Miller
2005-06-06  6:43                             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 23:26                       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-05 20:11                       ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 21:07                     ` Edgar E Iglesias
2005-06-03 23:30                       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-06-03 20:30             ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 19:40           ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:23             ` jamal
2005-06-03 20:28               ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-03 17:40 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 18:08 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-03 18:19 Ronciak, John
2005-06-03 18:33 ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 18:49   ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:59     ` Ben Greear
2005-06-03 19:02       ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 20:17 ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-03 20:30   ` David S. Miller
2005-06-06 15:35 Ronciak, John
2005-06-06 19:47 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-06 20:29 Ronciak, John
2005-06-06 23:55 ` Mitch Williams
2005-06-07  0:08   ` Ben Greear
2005-06-08  1:50     ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-07  4:53   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-07 12:38     ` jamal
2005-06-07 12:06       ` Martin Josefsson
2005-06-07 13:29         ` jamal
2005-06-07 12:36           ` Martin Josefsson
2005-06-07 16:34             ` Robert Olsson
2005-06-07 23:19               ` Rick Jones
2005-06-21 20:37         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22  7:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22  8:42           ` P
2005-06-22 19:37             ` jamal
2005-06-23  8:56               ` P
2005-06-21 20:20     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 20:38       ` Rick Jones
2005-06-21 20:55         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 21:47         ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 22:22           ` Donald Becker
2005-06-21 22:34             ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22  0:08               ` Donald Becker
2005-06-22  4:44                 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-22 11:31                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 16:23                 ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 16:37                   ` jamal
2005-06-22 18:00                     ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 18:06                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 20:22                         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 20:35                           ` Rick Jones
2005-06-22 20:43                             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 21:10                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 21:16                             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 21:53                             ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-22 22:11                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 21:38                           ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 22:13                             ` Eric Dumazet
2005-06-22 22:30                               ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 22:23                             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-23 12:14                               ` jamal
2005-06-23 17:36                                 ` David Mosberger
2005-06-22 22:42                           ` Leonid Grossman
2005-06-22 23:13                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 23:19                               ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 23:23                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 17:05                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-07 16:23 Ronciak, John
2005-06-07 20:21 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08  2:20   ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-08  3:31     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08  3:43     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-08 13:36       ` jamal
2005-06-09 21:37         ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-09 22:05           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-09 22:12             ` Jesse Brandeburg
2005-06-09 22:21               ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 22:21               ` jamal
2005-06-09 22:22             ` David S. Miller
2005-06-09 22:20           ` jamal

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